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PostSubject: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:26 pm

I'm probably being a total muppet - but my LFS has some gorgeous *male* Orange Spot BN's - probably 3 cm long with clear "antlers" so looks like my second ancistrus will be here later this week.

I read the species as Ancistrus sp rio ucayali - is this right ? Thanks for putting up with idiot questions !


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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:35 pm

Could really do with photos to get a proper ID
Any chance you can take some from the LFS and post them?
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:36 pm

Yes shouldn't be an issue - I'll pop in tomorrow and get a quick grab.

Actually *edit* provided my water quality is still excellent and my Apistos aren't spawning like mad I'll pick one up in the next couple of days anyway. I'm not too worried about the exact classification - although I obviously want to know for sure. They're just in stunning condition.


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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:36 pm

Not quite sure MarkOrm, I've been trying to figure out what we get delivered to OZ as "orange spots" but not having much luck, Ill have a crack at another option later today.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:42 pm

J can you post pics of what you get in Oz and I'll cross reference over here if I can for you
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:45 pm

I'll pop in tomorrow and get some pictures - I know the owners well and they won't mind. I almost picked one up today but held off as I like to do a change, test water and feed existing fish before I add a new one. Call me anal. I used run a quarentine tank as well but the quality of the water and fish where I get them from is second to none. I'm anal though about my plants and treating them for snails / ich etc. before they go in.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:51 pm

Call you "anal " MarkOrm- nah I'd call it caring for your tanks and fish.
As for foto's of the O-spot - same deal I need to get to the shop to get pix, but I'll try .
O-spots aren't that expensive in OZ they're just not my cuppa tea, I guess that's why I don't I have any Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:19 pm

They're not dear over here either. My little L144 was £10 - these are on sale for £5.99, sexed and bigger. The antlers are already really well formed. Speaking of which considering that everything I read I wasn't expecting a lot of activity from my L144 during daylight - he or she is all over the shop. Brilliant to watch. I suspect that the reason the first batch of apisto eggs vanished is due to a certain catfish. Super fish - I can see why you're all so nuts. I've got some nice images of the L144 on bogwood - I'll be posting them tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:14 am

I agree this one would be great to clear up as it causes so much confusion.....

the only way to get around this is by getting the pics we need.....

Like ive said before there are hundreds of different species of Ancistrus so its impossible to I.D without any snaps atol...

Lets get them crossed refd and see were we go from there...

looking forward to those L144 pics aswell mark...... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:59 pm

Here we go - lights back on after lunchtime introduction :



You can see the orange spots on his fins better in this one. Colours have definitely improved since in the shop. Him and the L1444 seem inseperable.




The Macasterii have spawned (again !).


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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:48 pm

Yup that's the the critter( well looks damn like it ) that we get in OZ as O-spot,
and I'd go out on the limb in saying that fish looks real close to the fish you were trying to I.D Jagtazman--
the 1 I suggested to be L110- all though I don't think it's L110 any more care of the pic from deano.

Healthy looking fish though MarkOrm, just need to find him a little girly friend now.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:52 pm

Not the same as I have, mine has alot more spots on the body, this one does not appear to have any one the body only the fins or is it just me
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:59 pm

It does appear to not have many spots on him, could also be a bad angle, this is why I won't buy them:
they look just like commons with a minor tweak to the colour but then you add $30-$40 on
top of the price of commons.
Maybe I'll still try to get pics from Aggies.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:26 am

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Yup that's the the critter( well looks damn like it ) that we get in OZ as O-spot,
and I'd go out on the limb in saying that fish looks real close to the fish you were trying to I.D Jagtazman--
the 1 I suggested to be L110- all though I don't think it's L110 any more care of the pic from deano.

Healthy looking fish though MarkOrm, just need to find him a little girly friend now.

I'm probably being thick but where's Deano's pic ? Definitely a healthy little fish - he's been glued to the cucumber and when not doing that following the L144 around and hassling the spawning apsito's.

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Not the same as I have, mine has alot more spots on the body, this one does not appear to have any one the body only the fins or is it just me

I was having a look at him last night and you're right about the spots. They are very pronounced on his dorsal and two front fins (must look up the correct term) - the tank lights don't come on until three but having had a look this morning the fin spots are more pronounced again. The body is spotless. Off on leave this week so I'll be able to post some more images - he's quite spectacular out in the open.

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It does appear to not have many spots on him, could also be a bad angle, this is why I won't buy them:
they look just like commons with a minor tweak to the colour but then you add $30-$40 on
top of the price of commons.
Maybe I'll still try to get pics from Aggies.

I'd be interested to see the pictures from Aggies - the body is darker than the commons and although you can't see very well the spots are quite distinct. Better pictures to follow honest ! This chap was £8.99 which according to Xe.com is $AU14 - so you're clearly being charged a premium.

I can see my second tank becoming purely an ancistrus one - so expect any intersting specimins to be bought up photographed and asked about. I'm hooked.

Anyway so we think not L110 ? I'll try to get some better pictures this week for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:34 pm

High MarkOrm, this pic deano posted of the L110 is in the I.D section, one of Jagtazman threads.
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:57 pm

One of my LFS has a nice large female in stock same as Mark's picture, it was wild caught but the guys no idea what it is, neither have I.
Saw it yesterday when I was in, apparently they've had it for a few months and thought they'd sold them all lol!
Only had the one female, but it did look really nice

This one's got me puzzled as to what it is, spots on the fins, but spotless body. As the one I saw is def wild caught I'd bet it's the same a J gets in Oz
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:11 am

here you go mate L110
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Looking at your pic it looks like the more flatter slimmer type so im going with the reo madre altough yours looks a little too dark but the body type fits no spots on the body and fine spots to the fins and tail ill have to dig around and see if i can find out more for you as these arnt seen often would be good if you can ask the shop were they got it from ie germany or the eu or shipped direct from peru
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PostSubject: Re: Orange spot BN - can't find information on here.   Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:38 am

Yes definitely a different type. Here's a much better shot from last night - he's starting to show some spots on his body now that he's being well fed and not stressed.

What do you think ?

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