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PostSubject: will they breed together?   Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:19 pm

Will a long fin BN breed with a short fin BN? And if so what is the outcome?
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:57 pm

Yes they will, and you'll end up with a mixture. I'm trying the same thing atm.
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:47 am

hopkins182 wrote:
Yes they will, and you'll end up with a mixture. I'm trying the same thing atm.


yep this is true
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:30 pm

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Yes they will, and you'll end up with a mixture. I'm trying the same thing atm.

pretty much answers your question... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Lunchbox wrote:
Will a long fin BN breed with a short fin BN? And if so what is the outcome?

Can I ask why you want to do this?. Why not just keep to sp breeding.

I have kept and bred Hypans and would never dream of mixing sp on purpose. Is it an accepted principle in the bn world to mix breed?


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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:37 pm

I don't want to breed them, I was just curious as i came across alot of this in my reading.
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:52 pm

thegeeman wrote:
Lunchbox wrote:
Will a long fin BN breed with a short fin BN? And if so what is the outcome?

Can I ask why you want to do this?. Why not just keep to sp breeding.

I have kept and bred Hypans and would never dream of mixing sp on purpose. Is it an accepted principle in the bn world to mix breed?


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I suspect his question comes from a desire to watch their breeding behaviour rather than a desire to "pure breed" an L number - a bit like dog or duck breeders will breed a variety. Apologies if I'm being a muppet here but aren't all Ancistrus sp. variations (wild due to different environmental conditions or tank bred) the same basically genetically able to breed species ? Given enough time they will become behaviourally then genetically distinct as different colours will occupy different ecological niches.
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:45 pm

MarkOrm wrote:
thegeeman wrote:
Lunchbox wrote:
Will a long fin BN breed with a short fin BN? And if so what is the outcome?

Can I ask why you want to do this?. Why not just keep to sp breeding.

I have kept and bred Hypans and would never dream of mixing sp on purpose. Is it an accepted principle in the bn world to mix breed?


Cheers

thegeeman


I suspect his question comes from a desire to watch their breeding behaviour rather than a desire to "pure breed" an L number - a bit like dog or duck breeders will breed a variety. Apologies if I'm being a muppet here but aren't all Ancistrus sp. variations (wild due to different environmental conditions or tank bred) the same basically genetically able to breed species ? Given enough time they will become behaviourally then genetically distinct as different colours will occupy different ecological niches.

Your not being a muppet at all mate. Just that if I talked about crossing "sp" of hypancistrus or any other plec I would get shot Laughing Yet with bristlenose breeding people dont bat an eye at mixed "sp" just not sure why.



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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:52 pm

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Yet with bristlenose breeding people dont bat an eye at mixed "sp" just not sure why.
Because they're ugly enough, and we might just make them prettier? Laughing
Haha, I kid, I can imagine it's just curiosity more than anything. I for one would love to see what my common bn and my L059's babies would look like if they had any! xD Can't imagine it would ever happen though!
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PostSubject: Re: will they breed together?   Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:35 pm

thegeeman wrote:
MarkOrm wrote:
thegeeman wrote:
Lunchbox wrote:
Will a long fin BN breed with a short fin BN? And if so what is the outcome?

Can I ask why you want to do this?. Why not just keep to sp breeding.

I have kept and bred Hypans and would never dream of mixing sp on purpose. Is it an accepted principle in the bn world to mix breed?


Cheers

thegeeman


I suspect his question comes from a desire to watch their breeding behaviour rather than a desire to "pure breed" an L number - a bit like dog or duck breeders will breed a variety. Apologies if I'm being a muppet here but aren't all Ancistrus sp. variations (wild due to different environmental conditions or tank bred) the same basically genetically able to breed species ? Given enough time they will become behaviourally then genetically distinct as different colours will occupy different ecological niches.

Your not being a muppet at all mate. Just that if I talked about crossing "sp" of hypancistrus or any other plec I would get shot Laughing Yet with bristlenose breeding people dont bat an eye at mixed "sp" just not sure why.



Cheers

thegeeman

im not sure why geeman
i dont cross breed any of mine and would,nt even breed from a brown and a albino. or two siblings. i was going to put the reds to the browns just to see what would have been the outcome as it,s beleived the reds came from two browns. if that is the case it as got to be down to lack of pigment. imo
thats why i will only buy my stock from trusted breeders or from germany. ive bought them in the past then when they spawnd ive ended up with some brown fry that i did not want. Evil or Very Mad
i got some reds and some albino long fins from a breeder last year who is supposed to be a good well known breeder. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad well the truth is i would never buy another thing from him. the reds had white spot and the long fins were short fins exept for two out of the six these are now just tank cleaners in my mbuna tank the reds i sold on.
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