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PostSubject: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:38 am

I know its only one not so great pic but can anyone ID this Ancistrus by this photo?

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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:10 am

Could be a L071....../L181....

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/image.php?species=ancistrus+sp(l071)&image_id=7125

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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:59 pm

I was looking at that Cat-eLog and it looks similar but I notice some difference.

One thing....my fish has rows of spots on the rays of the dorsal and not between them. The PlanetCatfish
catelog for L071 shows a fish with spots both on the rays of the dorsal and between the rays also.

I have a post up on PC too and only one person replied so far. I said over there that I bought this fish as
a 213...but after doing some searching I think I was wrong. I found a post by another person who ordered
some 184s from the same seller I got mine from. I think I ordered some 213s and 184s at the same time.

So I think I ordered this fish as a 184....but I dont think it is a 184. Does anyone else?

The closest thing I think I have found is L370. Wutcha think?

crap PCs website seems to be having difficulty. No images will show in the catelog for me right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:49 pm

i had the 213 and the pic you have posted is not 213 the 213 as a greyish blue sheen on the fins and bristles when adult i also think l370 i posted some pics on here of the rare l370 and they look very much the same to me. the pics are in the profile section. i also thought l100 at first but theirs no spots between the rays but as the same greenish sheen to the bristles.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:29 pm

I'd be so bold to say L071, as you have mentioned the spots on the fin rays and not on the membrane,
this can be mis-leading as juvenile fish will have the occasional spot on the membrane but this seems to clear up as the fish matures.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:06 pm

Kurosaki J wrote:
I'd be so bold to say L071, as you have mentioned the spots on the fin rays and not on the membrane,
this can be mis-leading as juvenile fish will have the occasional spot on the membrane but this seems to clear up as the fish matures.
cheers J

ill agree that the spots clear up with maturaty but does,nt the L071 have 9 rays.??
ive never owned one so i cannot say for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:28 am

I have had the fish for well over a year I think.

I have 2 males and one female. To my knowledge they have never spawned.

The male pictured here is the smaller of the two...I would guess him around 4 inches TL.
The female is about 4 inches also and the other male may be closer to 5 inches

If any of that info is helpful.

Are we all thinking L370 then? Are those fairly rare?
Man I hope not because I haven't really treated these plecos well haha they are always
last to get a water change. I sure hope I haven't been mistreating a rare expensive Ancistrus.
I can certainly testify that they are not overly sensitive to water quality.

I am going to attempt to get more and better pics over the next couple of days. They are pretty
shy. I may have to catch them and take pics in a specimen container.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:00 am

I was looking through some old pics and found these. They are of the fish when they first arrived at my house almost immediately
after the Fedex man dropped them off. It is the same fish next to a 213. I still dont think the color is showing true in the photos. In person the spots are a copper color.



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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:28 am

In the last pic they look like L255 Spotted medusa from the above view....

The male with not so bright spots defo looks like an Ancistrus Ranuncalus(L034) and the others like i said from above look like L255....

Its a long shot as the first few pics dont look like the medusa pleco but the shape of the body and the bristle pattern is a giveaway...

Anybody else have a view???

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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:18 pm

Curby wrote:
In the last pic they look like L255 Spotted medusa from the above view....

The male with not so bright spots defo looks like an Ancistrus Ranuncalus(L034) and the others like i said from above look like L255....

Its a long shot as the first few pics dont look like the medusa pleco but the shape of the body and the bristle pattern is a giveaway...

Anybody else have a view???

i lost track of this thread sorry.
im going to dissagree with you their curby the heads dont look anywere near wide enough to me for a 4" ranunculas. they appear short and dumpy as their heads are nealy as wide as the body length lol
the one with the fine spots im going for a L213 as its the only one i can think of that as that many fine white spots and the other two im going to say either L184 or a L289 to be fair we need better pics to id these.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:57 pm

Agree def not L255
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:22 pm

Yes the fine spot one is a 213

I thought 184 has white spots?

Oh....and help me out here...what sort of pics are needed for I'd?

I know they look white in the pics....but in person they are a copper color to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:53 pm

I agree, they are not L255. Their heads would be twice as wide and their fins a little different.

I would identify them as L184 and L213 probably wild caught. The shape of their fins looks like the L184.
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:59 pm

ive had a good look and youre right defo not 255's.......

Well iam going with L184 then The BRilliant Bristlenose...

they are the only BN i no with large white spots......as for the other??? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:29 pm

this is the only problem with the black with white spots theirs to many lol well im going for the L289 the tail is all wrong for a L184 check these out
http://www.amazon-aquatics.de/_html/galerie/bilder/Import%20BRA%20Okt%2009/CCP_L289.jpg

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/image.php?species=ancistrus+sp(l107)&image_id=4014
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:33 pm

trebor69 wrote:
Yes the fine spot one is a 213

I thought 184 has white spots?

Oh....and help me out here...what sort of pics are needed for I'd?

I know they look white in the pics....but in person they are a copper color to me.

just more clear pics mate and from the side and if poss when their on the glass so we can see the shape and spots from underneath
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:03 pm

Looking at it from the side the tail is wrong for the L184.

Could it be the L327? This is the closest I could find on planetcatfish.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=1682
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:38 pm

WHta with the whiptail cat in the second link deano Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Which Ancistrus is this?   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:55 am

Spreebok wrote:
WHta with the whiptail cat in the second link deano Laughing

dont know whats happend their as curby's link is doing the same showing the same whiptail. Mad
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