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PostSubject: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:47 am

gday all

just drained my grow out tub and had a little surprise
about a month ago i put about 100 albino bristles in there to grow out a bit more , they were all about a inch long and the standard yellow/goldish color .
Now i have found a pure white one in the tub !
any ideas ?
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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:46 am

yep, its another morph of the albino birstlenose, and a rare one at that. In about 100 albinos you might expect 1 or 2. They are also very sensitive so be careful with the little fella.

see this thread for some more of the morphs

http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/the-breeding-cave-f8/crosseswhat-do-you-get-please-help-t1616.htm

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:50 am

would he be worth holding back as breeding stock ?
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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:51 am

not really, they dont fetch any more money than the standard albino and personally they freak me out a bit, like a ghost in the tank!!!

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:57 am

another docile question ?
would that gene be carried to his off spring ? ie more chance of throwing the same color

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:58 am

Dont know, im not sure if the white is a genetic defect or something else, envirnmental or something. If you do decide to breed with it i would be very interested in the outcome SmileVery Happy

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:04 am

nothing ventured etc
will hold him back an see how it goes
dog genetics i understand but fish genetics are over my head lol
thanks for the advice Smile

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:06 am

only stupid question is one not asked Smile

I have been researching the genetics of the bristlenose for over a year now and its not a simple as people would think.

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PostSubject: white albino Bristlenose   Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:33 am

hmmm another white one for me too....

I seem to have dropped on as curby passed 6 albino BN onto me after I visited his dwelling to collect some fish for
another member on here.....

And two of the six he passed to me turned white as well.....

one of which passed away last week... Sad

the other is eating well, but appears to be smaller than the other albino's and is def pure white like a ghost, unlike the other's which are more a yellow colour...
will try to get a picture of the white one by the side of a normal albino.....

never lost any other fish in that tank before so the white small albino was the first for me....
Curby probably be a litted down hearted since it was one of his Sad

so be nice to him for a few days....

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:52 am

my little guy seems to be just a poofteenth larger than his tub mates and stands out brightly in the bottom of the tub ,seems to be doing well , will hold this little guy/girly back Smile
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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:26 pm

My concern here is that your white fish was a standard yellow albino and then went white some time after being put in the grow out tub. In my experience that is a "red flag".

I have a pair of albinos. (yellow no spotting) they spawn regularly, but most of their fry while hatched normal yellow, turn white and die. The few that have survived, have stayed yellow.

I bought the parents as 2 inch fish from the same LFS, they are probably brother and sister, and I suspect from an already inbred line. I have a couple of albino males from another source (yellow with spots) and I will be putting the female with one of them in hopes that will solve the problem.

White fish that hatch white seem to have a better chance at being viable then those that turn white. I'm hearing of white fry cropping up more and more in albino spawns, and we know so little of what is going on genetically. I hope you will post what happens with your fish as every bit of info helps put together the puzzle.

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PostSubject: white albino Bristlenose   Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:09 pm

hmm I will try to keep you informed as much as possible....

weird thing is the one that died always seemed rather skeletal and lethargic compared to the others...
I have rescued fish similar to that from the LFS and been successful in making them good fish...

infact it was probably white from the start that one, but you could hardly tell till it till it got a little older.,...

though I have noticed one of the yellow albino seems to have whitened a little over the last few months as it got bigger...
this white one is eating very well and likes to chase my mollies round occasionally...

I will take a picture if I manage to get it by the side of one of the others, I am sure curby will be interested too since they were
from him originally so he should be able to advise more on the albino parents...

Though from what I remember Curby's albino parents looked like very good stock and were gorgeous pleco too...

it is strange how occasionally you get one or two that turn out to be albino albino pleco....

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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:58 am

now and again you will always get the ghosty of the group or 2.......

anywayz LJ i have some crackers growing out at the moment....

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PostSubject: glad they ok :)   Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:48 am

bet you do... lucky guy you are...lol
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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:14 pm

ive been doing a bit of research as ive got two distictive coulours of albino bristlenose long fin from what ive found so far theres what you call golden albino and then a true albino which looks more pinky white than gold as ive got 3 pinky white related ill breed them with my golden albino i did find a chines site that did show pics of the two colours has anyone else come across this. i do have a pinky white adult short fin so its def not a weak fish
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PostSubject: Re: He went white ! ??????   Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:41 pm

it is a weak fish, trust me on that. Of the 50 or so fry that i have had come through my breeding tanks that had the pure white colour i have only raised about 10 to full size. and that was with much extra care on my part. Albinoism is by definition a weaker line.

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