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PostSubject: Not sure what he/she is???   Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:20 pm

Hi
Im new to your site and its just amazing!!!
I got 3 of these babies a couple of weeks ago but am not sure what they are... Any ideas???
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:28 pm

well, you have two albino longfin fry there by the looks of it.

The third one is interesting. Judging by what you said you have in your tank in your intro posts my money is on a common shortfin but i have never seen one with such fine point markings. Its incredible!! I would be keeping that one to breed with 120%!!!!

Or you can send it to me Very Happy

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PostSubject: questions questions on longfin bristlenose   Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:03 am

not sure 2 long fin albino for sure,

the third I reckon could be a normal longfin... think the tail fisn is too long to be a common.. though it can be hard to tell when young...

Doug's advice is usually close though Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:11 am

I bought them from a local fish shop and when I asked them what they were he said that they were just listed as bn's but he thought they looked like starlights...
I have googled them and gone through so many images on there!
They are really dark brown/black and the spots are really fine and white.
They are really beautiful but im dying to know what they really are lol!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:28 am

I would go for 2 common albino's and one L059.......

http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/ancistrus-l-numbers-f48/ancistrus-hoplogenysl059-t897.htm#13808

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PostSubject: Curby sounds spot on....   Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:43 am

Curby wrote:
I would go for 2 common albino's and one L059.......

http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/ancistrus-l-numbers-f48/ancistrus-hoplogenysl059-t897.htm#13808

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Glad I have friends to do some identifying on here.....
Curby your L059 looks spot on to me mate... wish I had the patience to check them out for people, but my time right now is full of pain and watching the clock
for when to take my next pain killers.....

Lovely fish the L059 though....... a little like a cross of the flash pleco in the fin and a Lo71 peppermint... so he as three nice pleco's there from the LFS...

Wonder what was paid for them..

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:27 am

Thanks guys!!!
Mine are just like those in the pics! really lovely fish...
I got them from the local fish shop for £3 each...
Quite a find then???

Not the longfins :-) They came from somewhere else lol
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:55 pm

tilkifox wrote:
Thanks guys!!!
Mine are just like those in the pics! really lovely fish...
I got them from the local fish shop for £3 each...
Quite a find then???

Not the longfins :-) They came from somewhere else lol

Bargain...which shop??

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:56 pm

well picked Curby!!

Even got the orange colour in the spots on the fins too...lovely fish....DAMN YOU AUSTRALIAN IMPORT LAWS!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:13 pm

Halls Aquatics, chester Road, birmingham.
Like I said, they didnt know what they were. Even got the delivery note out to show me and it just said 'bristlenose'.
Im well happy with them!
Gotta be carefull though or I will end up buying too many lol!
Have already got 3 tanks and am running out of room to put any more :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:16 pm

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Halls Aquatics, chester Road, birmingham.
Like I said, they didnt know what they were. Even got the delivery note out to show me and it just said 'bristlenose'.
Im well happy with them!
Gotta be carefull though or I will end up buying too many lol!
Have already got 3 tanks and am running out of room to put any more :-)

i would go back and buy a few more at that price... Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:43 pm

Just been back and bought the last 2!!!
Cant wait for them to get a bit bigger lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:25 pm

Good Job post plenty pics please... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:33 pm

Will do!!!
They are having a good feed at the mo!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:50 pm

Awesome, Congrats that was a clever score...Well done cheers Good Job
I agree with Curby, spot on...
I can't believe you paid so little..very jealous actually... rendeer
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:57 pm

All my babies seem to be growing well ( Ive got 5 albino longfins, 3 brown longfins and 4 of the L059's)
They have been having some flake, algae wafers and cucumber which they absolutely love!
Is there anything else you guys would recommend for them??? They are all very active both day and night (the L059's are a bit shyer but 'out and about') except for one of the dark spotty ones but he is growing well and feeding well so im not too worried about him (he is the biggest one of them!)
Also is there any way of telling what sex they are???
The woman I got the longfins from looked at them really closely with an eye piece thingy (like jewellers use) and told me that 4 of the albinos were female and 2 of the browns were female)
Could she really tell or was she having me on???!
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PostSubject: a jewellers magnifying lense for identifying fish?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:36 pm

the jewellers magnifier can be used depending on the quality, and ofcourse how
good the persons eye who was identifying the pleco ...

much depends on experience, though it is worth noting down what she says and possibly seeing how accurate her
identifying was as the fish get older....
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:10 pm

Just wanted to post a pic now they are a bit bigger to see if you guys still think they are L059's
I know some can be hard to tell when they are young
I have lightened up the pic slightly so they are a bit darker 'in real life'!

They are all getting bristles round their lips but none have got any up their snout yet Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:31 pm

looks like what we call in Aussie an "orange spot britlenose'. There is a lot of arguement as to what L number the belong too but it looks like mine.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:48 am

Its really hard to tell from my rubbishy pics but they are a real dark chocolatey brown with creamy white spots but on his fins and tail the spots are orangy red...
I have looked at the pics on google and the catfish sites trying to determine if they are Rio Ucayali or L059's.
Going on the pics I have seen, the rio has quite dull spots where as mine are really bright
Probably the best pic I have of them... Shame its only his bum lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:03 pm

It looks just like the photo in Curbys profile of the L059 HERE and in a previous post HERE
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:36 pm

Yes Jim... Thats them to a T!!!
Its difficult because so many people say that they cant possibly be L059 because they are hard to come by but the pics I have seen of them are so similar when the pics of the rio (whatever its called!) are not the same at all...
In the end it doesnt really matter that much to me at the moment because I think they are great looking fish and wouldnt part with them... Will only be an issue IF they breed...
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:42 pm

Im 99% sure they are Rio's..L059's........

L059's are very distinctive in there orange edges...

As doug said there are issues with the Oz orange spot and the L182 starlight.....

when i breed my L182's this was a juvi that came from my wild pair..



Looks very much like yours but no were near as much orange in it as your pic......

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what he/she is???   Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:19 pm

[Quote 'Im 99% sure they are Rio's..L059's........

L059's are very distinctive in there orange edges...' Quote]

Which ones do you think they are Curby??? Question The Rio Ucayali or the L059????? Question

They are very orangy in their fins and tail but not on their bodies...

Its a real shame that I cant get a good pic of them... They are a lot shyer than all my others so pics are not that easy to come by lol!

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PostSubject: awaiting further info   Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:24 am

Can't wait for more info since I think I saw some of these in the LFS the other day labelled as Orange spot / Marble pleco.. only to have a long chat with
the LFS owner to explain that Orange Spot and Orange Marble Pleco can be found as two different fish....

similarities with this but they are so hard to photo Sad
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