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Pleco James
Large Bristlenose
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Pleco James


Male Number of posts : 243
Age : 27
Location : Surrey, England
Job/hobbies : Fishkeeping, Cricket, Rowing, Fishing, Camping
Humor : Michael McIntyre and Rhod Gilbert
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Registration date : 2011-02-15

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PostSubject: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 9:06 pm

First of all, i would like to know about a few different BN species that are around, would anyone be able to do a mini list of around 5-10 different BNs?

Secondly, would anyone post pictures of L181, L182, and L183 plecos, i have had a lot of confusion over these, after searching around the internet whatever i type in the same pleco normally comes up for 2 of the numbers, for example, if i type in L182 pleco it might come up with the starlight BN, and then if i type L183 pleco it will also come up with the starlight, i would like a ID for each of these numbers.

Any help appreciated Very Happy , hope this is not too hard to help with Embarassed

If no one can gets picture then could you just tell me what they are?


Thanks

James
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Doug
Bristlenose King
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Doug


Male Number of posts : 3128
Age : 37
Location : Adelaide, South Australia
Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist
Humor : yes please :)
Thank You Points : 198
Registration date : 2010-05-08

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:23 pm

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/family.php?family_id=4

anything that starts with ancistrus is a bristlenose species Smile

trust me, the next 3 hrs of your life is now wasted Smile
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Pleco James
Large Bristlenose
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Pleco James


Male Number of posts : 243
Age : 27
Location : Surrey, England
Job/hobbies : Fishkeeping, Cricket, Rowing, Fishing, Camping
Humor : Michael McIntyre and Rhod Gilbert
Thank You Points : 11
Registration date : 2011-02-15

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:28 pm

Thanks Doug Very Happy you always help, great link, but, i can't find what im looking for... unless its just me Embarassed

Thanks anyway, ill keep looking :study:

James


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Pleco James
Large Bristlenose
Large Bristlenose
Pleco James


Male Number of posts : 243
Age : 27
Location : Surrey, England
Job/hobbies : Fishkeeping, Cricket, Rowing, Fishing, Camping
Humor : Michael McIntyre and Rhod Gilbert
Thank You Points : 11
Registration date : 2011-02-15

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:45 pm

OK so i found the starlight which turned out to be L182, but i can't find the other 2, especially since i don't know what im looking for lol!

Here is what the internet says,

L181- Peppermint BN - found on planet catfish on your link in the end Very Happy
L183- Starry night BN - also on planet catfish but does not say a number... Very Happy

are these correct? if not would you be able to tell me what they are?

Thanks

James
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Amber
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Location : Boise, Idaho, USA
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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 11:39 pm

Well....... You aren't going to find a definitive answer on this due to the lack of standardized terms period. This is a pet peeve of mine, but it's not going to change in the foreseeable future.
The L-183, for example, is probably the most identifiable as it is the only one with a wide band on the tail and dorsal. Planet Catfish calls it "Starlight", but I have also seen it called white seam, and Starry Night. Even the scientific names are not a great help as it's been referred to as both A. dolichoperus and A. hoplogenys. ( plus all those terms can refer to other species too) Add to this the inventive and flowery names that some LFS owners and others slap on fish just to make them sound special and make a sale. It's enough to make a detail oriented nit picker like me run screaming into the night.
Planet Catfish is a great place to start though, they have excellent photos and proper species ID is a very important consideration on that forum. I think the best you can do is try to double ID your fish by the "cat-e-log" and common local terms, or be extremely detailed when you describe or ask about a fish.
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jim.and
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Male Number of posts : 1449
Age : 67
Location : England
Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op
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Registration date : 2010-08-04

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptySat Feb 26, 2011 1:39 am

You could have looked HERE.

It's an excellent point made by Amber, it can be confusing, my Peppermints (L181's) were described as Starlights (L183's) when I bought them.
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Doug
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Doug


Male Number of posts : 3128
Age : 37
Location : Adelaide, South Australia
Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist
Humor : yes please :)
Thank You Points : 198
Registration date : 2010-05-08

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptySat Feb 26, 2011 2:43 am

its true, the naming of bristlenose is all over the shop, as is the entire loricariidae family. its a massive pain. only consolation for me is that in aus we have 3 species of brisltenose...common, peppermint and orangespot
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Pleco James
Large Bristlenose
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Pleco James


Male Number of posts : 243
Age : 27
Location : Surrey, England
Job/hobbies : Fishkeeping, Cricket, Rowing, Fishing, Camping
Humor : Michael McIntyre and Rhod Gilbert
Thank You Points : 11
Registration date : 2011-02-15

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PostSubject: Re: L-number BNs   L-number BNs EmptySat Feb 26, 2011 8:53 am

thanks for the help everyone, and i think i will go with Jim's link although planet catfish is great, i think BN World is the one to trust with Bristlenoses Very Happy
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