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PostSubject: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 8:19 am

Hi all.
I'm quite sure that my albino commons have bloat. Won't eat, lethargic, bloated etc...
Please confirm my fears. :cry:
Also, should I euthanase them, and if so, how?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 8:53 am

unfortunatly yes, thats def bloat Sad

Have a look at the bloat thread for ways to treat it.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 9:12 am

Thanks Doug.
I've read up on bloat in all the threads, and tried everything - except medications but it seems they are pretty ineffective. I've had peas in there for days, and even garlic-infused the peas.
The fish won't eat anymore, so I think it's all over...

Another question: If they die, should the tank and contents be treated before stocking it again?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 9:27 am

Sorry to see this mate... Evil or Very Mad .......
I dont think you will get a good out come...

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 11:00 am

Outlook not so good I'm sad to say. You don't really need to give the tank a real overhaul, just a good gravel vac should do. And before you get any more bn you should check what you've been feeding them. Try and steer clear of the foods more rich in protein. Just stick to algae discs and veg

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Mon May 23, 2011 10:52 pm

Thanks for the help.
I haven't had these two for long, and I think that poor water conditions may have caused the bloat. The guy I got them off didn't look after them very well while dismantling his tank. Had them in a bucket for too long with no filter. They ate for me after I first got them, but then got sick a few days / a week later. That was about 2 weeks ago.
Shame really, because they are nice fish, and were breeders. I hate when my fish die - not that it happens too often!
Mitch
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed May 25, 2011 12:44 am

UPDATE:
This morning the piece of Zucchini had been eaten out that I put in last night, so I figured maybe one of them is doing okay.
I separated them into different tanks to find out who did the eating.

Is there any medication or method I should try? I have peas and zucchini in the tanks that I keep changing to keep them fresh.
What would you guys do?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed May 25, 2011 5:55 am

I would keep them together & just have veg available for them...They may just come good yet...
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed May 25, 2011 3:00 pm

mgooza wrote:
UPDATE:
This morning the piece of Zucchini had been eaten out that I put in last night, so I figured maybe one of them is doing okay.
I separated them into different tanks to find out who did the eating.

Is there any medication or method I should try? I have peas and zucchini in the tanks that I keep changing to keep them fresh.
What would you guys do?

You need medication that is for internal bacteria, something like Octozin, others such as eSHa 2000 and Myxazin are often used but I'm not sure what is available in your part of the world.
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PostSubject: Fish now on eggs!   Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:16 am

Hey everyone.
Well, it's been about 3 weeks since the fish got crook, and there's been a pleasant development.
I was treating with Myxazin in the hope of them coming good, and this morning I noticed

The male fanning eggs!

Yep, both fish are still alive and apparently doing okay. The female still appeared a little bloated last I saw her, but that may have been the eggs, as it was not nearly as fat as the picture I posted.

Anyway, I'm going to discontinue the Myxazin, and switch to a daily water change schedule to keep the place clean. What do you think?
Mitch.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:08 am

Mitch,

Im glad youve turned the corner and things are workign out mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:46 am

Good to hear mate, glad things worked out in the end Good Job

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:54 am

Thanks guys. Looks like he has a big batch of eggs too.
And to think I was considering putting them to sleep...
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:36 pm

Congratulations Mitch not only on the eggs but also on the care you showed for them, just proves you should never give up on them. Good Job
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:39 pm

Congrats on the outcome mate! I think we're all very glad to see them pull through and leave a nice present in return Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:28 pm

not only did you save these guys yo spawned them congrats and glad thehard work paid off its nice to see some good outcoms time to time mate !
they did look in a bad way but if they are now on eggs im sure they are happy in there new home
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:38 am

Hi again.
Here's a pic of the female now, post egg laying. She seems to look okay, with nice sunken belly.
The male is in the cave fanning away.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:07 pm

she looks just like mine spawned about 4 days ago so waiting for wrigglers
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the dreaded bloat? (pics)   Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:30 am

WOW great going there in treating the BLOAT
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