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PostSubject: Help please after water test    Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:43 pm

Hi all ive been working away for 4 weeks and the mrs has been doing the weekly water changes for me (im not saying this is her fault) i have come back home this weekend and done a water test tonight the reading are as follows

PH 6.0
nitrite 0 ppm
nitrate 40 ppm
Amonia 0.25 ppm

the tank contains 4 adult BN's and a good few fry also some adult RCS and also some fry

now what can be done to raise the PH fro best results not causing problems the the contents of the tank
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:35 pm

Hi,don't worry about trying to raise the ph because at 6 it is o.k,adding stuff to try to higher it will probably do more harm than good.The nitrate reading is high and although not toxic to fish at low levels it can stress them out and if exposed to it for long periods can cause illness and needs bringing down by doing water changes.

I have a few questions if that is o.k?

What size is the tank,do you have any live plants,how long since the filter media had a good rinse,if you have gravel has it had a good hoover recently,what and how much do you feed,how long has the tank been running,do you have wood in the tank?
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:23 pm

Hi thanks for the reply the tank is 36"x18"x12" it has bee running for over 12 months the filters are fluval 305 external with a sponge over the intake to stop fry getting sucked in this sponge is was apx every 2 weeks also the is a jhad (i think thats what it was called) 102 i very rearly clean that on tbh as it dont seem to get clogged like the 305 sponge. The media in the 305 has not been touched for a good few months as the sponge dont let it get clogged up that much. The water changes are done on a weekly basis,there is no substrate in the tank at all the bootom is clear and free from poo (for want of a better word). Ther is plenty of bogwood in the one has anubis growing quit well on it, i feed the fish every other day now and alternate cucumber and wafers
i dont mind questions being asked
i just dont want to start loosing my fish i have lost a few fry tho

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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:33 pm

Hi again,do you give the bottom of the tank a good wipe over when you do a water change? It is a good idea as a bare bottom tank will have bacteria growing on the bottom. A high Nitrate reading will affect fry first and if they are dying then you need to get it down asap.Do the fish look well? Has any got any signs of anything?What you need to do asap is a good water change,maybe 50%,making sure the water is same or close to the same temp as the tank water and adding declorinator.Have you tested your tap water for nitrates?
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:46 pm

I would check the water coming out the tap, pH etc. try testing it straight out the tap and then test the same water again a few hours later.
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:49 pm

Hi guys sorry for not getting back sooner ive been away from home again Sad
Ihave now lost my big albeano bn male May have been old age he was adult when i bought him
but i have also lost nearly all of my bn fry too
i have retested the water and here are the results

PH 6.0
nitrite 0.25 ppm
nitrate 25 ppm
Amonia 0 ppm

i have also tested the tap water this wa done 2 weeks ago aprox and again today and results where the same

PH 6.8
nitrite 0 ppm
nitrate 10 ppm
Amonia 0 ppm

i can't really clean the botton of the tank as there are lots of RCS babies around and dont want to be killing them off

what the heck is going wrong here Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Atm i have a jahad sponge covering the pipe that takes the water out to the fluval 305 this gets blocked quite quickly is there anything else that can be used that will allow more of the wast to enter the 305 filter but leave the fry and baby rcs in the tank without sucking them up
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:32 pm

Hi again,just a few questions and sorry if they are repeats.How many adult fish are in the tank and at what size and how many fry roughly? Are there any other fish aswell? What do you have in the tank apart from wood and plants? When did this start happening? Was it after a lot of fry hatched? How long has the tank been running and is this the first time you have had this problem? I ask these questions to enable me to help you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:32 am

hi there are 4 adults areound 4" not many fry now prob 10 or so there was around 60 there are alot of baby rcs in there and no other fish the rcs seem to be doing ok the tank has been running for over 12 months there is no substrate in the tank just wood one with anubis on it and 4 slate caves and a bit of moss for the shrimps
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:51 pm

Hi again,the sponge covering the pipe is probably not helping much.If it was me I would do at least 2 water changes a week maybe even 3,depending on what the test results was.Test the water after a water change then again 24 hours later and see what the difference is.Keep cleaning that sponge regularly,probably every other day or so.If possible,very carefully wipe over the bottom of the tank with a clean bit of sponge or something similar.If you go slowly and carefully I am sure the rcs will be o.k.If you aren't happy doing it then leave it.Keep your eye on things incase there is something else going on.
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:40 pm

hi what else is there on the market to put over the intake that will not allow the fry to be sucked in ??
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:22 pm

I don't think there is anything actually on the market for this.I did use a pair of stockings once but that too gets clogged real quick.I have no problems with my internal filters,maybe set a fry tank up with an internal filter for the future batches? Other than that I don't know what to suggest about the intake sorry.Maybe others may have some ideas for you or more help.
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:48 pm

i have tried the stocking route and i too found it blocked up quite quickly and atm i can't afford to buy an internal filter for the tank
i have been trying to grow the fry on in the same tank as the adults as i dont have the space for another tank
so really i need some ideas what i can use to replace the jahad sponge coering the water intake for the fluval 305
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:17 pm

What about trying to make some sort of fine mesh box to put round it? Fine enough for the fry not to be able to get through but not as fine as stocking or sponge? maybe use a fry saver type thing to cover it somehow? sorry I'm not a lot of help but I am trying.
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:18 pm

funny that ive just been looking on the bay at fry savers to see if i could make something that way
ive had to take one of the females out now she has gone very light in colour and like she's not with it ive put her n a little 20l tank that had some gold fish in for the kids some time back hope she dont give up the fight
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:24 pm

Are you sure there isn't anything else going on? Have you done a 50% water change and re tested?
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:27 pm

I do not keep shrimp and have no idea just how small the young are but could a filter media bag be an option Question
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PostSubject: Re: Help please after water test    Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:17 pm

The last test results are 48 hrs after a 50% water change im going to buy an internal filter for the tank see how that goes
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