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PostSubject: bloated ABN    Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:53 am

one of my females has gotten quite round,ive seperated her and tried feeding her shelled peas but she wont eat,this would be the third day i believe that she has gone without food..is there any thing i can do to get her to eat or is there something else i can feed her to help her out.. Question
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Are you sure she is not gravid? One of my females died when I took the male out to do population control as I think she may have been full of eggs.

If this is not the case, then go to your local asian supermarket and try feeding her nori (mine go straight for it)... it is a dried seaweed (algae) that comes in sheets, make sure you get the DRIED UNFLAVORED type over the roasted/flavored. This may not help the bloat but she will eat it. I weigh it down with cotterpins, but I'm sure a veggie clip will work. My bn eat this as almost 1/2 their diet now... best of luck to you pale
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:52 pm

If it is bloat and she has stopped eating then it could be terminal, you could try an anti internal bacteria med along with good water conditions. The other think that can cause bloating is worms, sometimes visible hanging from the anus of the fish.

Good luck and I hope it pulls through.

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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:53 pm

she has some new symptons this morning ,if you guys know wat it means..i guess they are what you would say are her cheeks are sunken in and her eyes also are sunken in????????????? poor girl doesnt look well
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:56 pm

I have to agree that it does not look like there will be a good outcome.

Bloat is often caused by a blockage causing constipation which leads to a bacterial infection in the gut. These bacteria will often start attacking the internal organs and the fish will waste.

What was the diet prior to it becoming ill and did you notice any white stringy poo ?

Sometimes old age can cause a similar effect as the internal organs fail naturally.



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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:53 am

She was fed on cucumber,zuchinni pumpkin and algae wafers,she has pood a little today its dark but she still has not touched the peas,i broke of a little bit of wafer this morning and that is gone but still no improvement..her stomache is smaller but very pink red looking atm.
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:25 am

just did a cold water change,found little clear springy worms..

My next question is,she was in a tank with another female a male and app 25 2 cm fry..is it ok to use the wormer on the fry?
Also should i treat all the tanks as they share equiptment(nets gravel vac etc)...

Thanks guys
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:56 am

I'm not sure if dewormers are safe with very small fry. although there are some that claim they are safe with fry smaller than BN's, touch wood I've never had to use it in a tank with fry. It's a bit of a catch 22 question if you don't treat and they develop symptoms then at that stage it may be to late.

Due to the risk of cross contamination then it would be advisable to treat all your tanks.

You could try rubbing some food with garlic, garlic can be an appetite enhancer and it's claimed it helps when treating for worms.
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:37 am

Thanks for your help,ive got her in a tank by herself now and treated for worms,fingers crossed..i think ill leave the tank with the fry for now and just keep a close eye on the adults in there..but will treat the other tanks too just to be safe..thanks again, greg
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:58 pm

Hi if i was you i would treat her with octazin it is very good for bloat a lot of the time as long as it isnt too late.
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon May 07, 2012 8:57 am

Just an update on "the brain" my female ABN...After setting up a little tank for her,i tried a wormer..not sure it made any difference but she did start moving around again a little,then tried a broad spectrum antibiotic..again a little improvement,her eyes went back to normal and she started eating a little more,finally a dose of mallafix also,she is now eating vigourously and her "cheeks" are filling out again..im not sure which one fixed it but the state she was in had really nothing to lose so tried everything...her colour is still a little paler than it was but i think she will be ok...the other fish she was with are not showing signs of any illness so i got no idea..thanks to everyone for the advice. Very Happy

cheers greg
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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon May 07, 2012 2:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: bloated ABN    Mon May 07, 2012 5:34 pm

Great news cheers
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