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PostSubject: Red bristonoses   Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:15 am

Just saw some pics of red BN'S. Just wondering if anyone has them and know how I can get hold of some.
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:12 am

they are called super red bristlenose.

We cant get them in Australia Sad


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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Doug wrote:
they are called super red bristlenose.

We cant get them in Australia Sad

so what do we have here. Albino,Common, is Marble and Calico the same or different there the only ones I no of. Do we have any other colour varieties.
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:38 pm

downunderbristolnose wrote:
Just saw some pics of red BN'S. Just wondering if anyone has them and know how I can get hold of some.

Emigrate or break the law and import some illegally. Although I wouldn't advise the second option.!!

Sorry there isn't any different options....

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:00 am

Maybe we should import some more variety's into the country. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:48 am

hrmmm, not worth the jail term Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:10 am

Just out of curiosity, how many different colored BN'S do you reckon there is out there?
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 pm

of the common bristlenose (A. cf. cirrhosus) there are a few.

common
albino
calico or marble
red
some oranges one are starting to pop up.

in terms of other species of Ancistrus, there are heaps, like heaps!! blue, green, red, brown, white, yellow, black...heaps

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:34 am

REALLY, why cant you get super reds in australia?
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:39 am

bristlenose are an extremely adaptive species. They are able to tolerate a wide variety of water conditions and temperatures. Given the history of exotic species getting into the Australian ecosystem and stuffing it up the government decided to ban the import of species that are able to naturalize. Unfortunately, all of the Loricariidae were on that list.

we are still allowed to own and breed those which were already in the country, just not import them.

As much as it sucks, I agree with it. While all of the fish keepers I know are responsible, the fact remains that there are others who are not. And as much as I would love to have all of the amazing variations here, I love local waterways more. I have spent the last 8 years of my life studying them, analyzing them and I plan to spend my life helping to restore them.

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:44 am

One day i would love to see a special license similar to the bird keepers license & journal, that allows those who have hold of one to have these rare ones imported.. A long shot but hey...
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:36 am

i was born and raised in hawaii, and we have that same problem. About 15 years ago i could catch a bunch of bristlenose and gibbeceps in a river next to my aunts house. up in the mountains I would find a random stream(2 feet wide) and barely 5 inches deep and randomly scoop a net and catch a bunch of baby locariddae's(i think thats how to spell it). its a real big problem there, at the same time pretty cool to catch them though
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:23 am

jond4261 wrote:
downunderbristolnose wrote:
Just saw some pics of red BN'S. Just wondering if anyone has them and know how I can get hold of some.

Emigrate or break the law and import some illegally. Although I wouldn't advise the second option.!!

Sorry there isn't any different options....

cheers

Jon
how come then most of our fish in lfs are imported and we can't import the Reds or other variety BN. lol! My bad should look before I re. Doug already replied why there not allowed. Give myself an uppercut lol.
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PostSubject: DOWN UNDER SUPER REDS   Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:48 pm

I HAVE A IDEA EVERYONE FROM DOWN UNDER TAKE A VACATION AND COME TO THE STATES AND YOU CAN GO HOME WITH SOME SUPER REDS IN YOUR POCKET
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:38 pm

Up to a $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for a fish...pass. Don't get me wrong, I may in fact be the biggest bristlenose fan out there, except maybe for Chasse, she is so pumped up about the little fellas at the moment! Very Happy

But i dont love them that much!

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:51 pm

hahaha thanks Doug! I am sure for "research purposes" you could try persuade the g'ment to let you import some LOL
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PostSubject: super red blood lines??   Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:28 pm

Hi Guy's, a question to those that know from one that doesn't. Is a super red something different to a common bristle nose ( I know its a different color) What I mean is, is it selective breeding of a common variety to acheive the red color? if yes couldnt we do the same here or is it a different L number?
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:29 pm

It takes a number of years to selective breed fish to get the required traits. Yes the super red bn is a colour morph of the common and no they arent available in aus yet. BUT.... i have heard on the grapevine that there are some breeders in aus trying to make the super reds happen. Hell they might even be here, just not ready for selling yet. So far if you look around you will find that we now have L144 short and longfin available in aus. so hopefully super reds arent that far away Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Doug wrote:
Up to a $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for a fish...pass. Don't get me wrong, I may in fact be the biggest bristlenose fan out there, except maybe for Chasse, she is so pumped up about the little fellas at the moment! Very Happy

But i dont love them that much!
Hi, why not just stick to local species, Australia has some of the nicest fish out there. Most of them unknown to most of the trade. Just stick to the available bristlenoses. It really is not worth stuffing up the ecology, rabbits, foxes, cane toads etc. come to mind.
I hope when I come home to Oz there is still some local ecology left.
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:17 am

marty14 wrote:
Doug wrote:
Up to a $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for a fish...pass. Don't get me wrong, I may in fact be the biggest bristlenose fan out there, except maybe for Chasse, she is so pumped up about the little fellas at the moment! Very Happy

But i dont love them that much!
Hi, why not just stick to local species, Australia has some of the nicest fish out there. Most of them unknown to most of the trade. Just stick to the available bristlenoses. It really is not worth stuffing up the ecology, rabbits, foxes, cane toads etc. come to mind.
I hope when I come home to Oz there is still some local ecology left.
Marty

Indeed Australia does have some of the nicest fish, and as we all know, what we can't have makes us want it all the more. That being said, there are some very beautiful fish out there that we will never have here, and I can imagine there are a lot of people in this country that have had experience with the greater majority available to us and would pay thousands at the opportunity. I poke through my L# book all the time and drool at the large snippet from the massive variety that's there and I wish I could have some of these. Though I can understand the restrictions in place, I wish it wasn't so. :P
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:28 am

We actually have quite a large selection of Ls available in aus. Problem is most are so few in numbers there is a hefty price tag on them Sad There must be alot of sneaky smugglers because for some reason there are still new ones showing up here n there. Now to wait for the super red bns Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:58 am

kfenk wrote:
We actually have quite a large selection of Ls available in aus. Problem is most are so few in numbers there is a hefty price tag on them Sad There must be alot of sneaky smugglers because for some reason there are still new ones showing up here n there. Now to wait for the super red bns Smile

Ahaha I hear ya there Kfenk, cross fingers for the super reds. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:56 pm

Can you post some pics of the super red? They sound really cool Smile I wonder if we have them in Canada
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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:06 pm

pretty sure you do. They are in the states Smile

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=super+red+bristlenose&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Cuc&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tGdvUOXSCceQiAeV3ICgCw&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=778

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PostSubject: Re: Red bristonoses   Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:16 pm

hey bristlelover, my avatar is my female super red, she's close to breeding size but i cant find any males,when i do find one I offer to buy theirs and they ask to buy mine Mad but I found a calico male thats more red then black. Gonna breed those two and see what happens
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