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PostSubject: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:41 pm

my comon BNP's iare dying of bloat any one know what to do I have lost 8 animals so far all juvies
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:34 pm

put peas in the tank, change 15% water daily with gravel vac & stop feeding everything else. Just peas for about a week or so.

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:07 pm

no meds ??????
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:05 pm

You can hit the tank with a broad scale antibiotic if you like but bloat is a mainly controlled by diet. The antibiotics would be killing off the excess bacteria from the dying fish.

Epsom salt baths work really well too if the fish is not too far gone.

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:48 pm

Doug I been feeding all my BN plecos the same diet. Only one of my tanks has got die off and it is only my albinos that are dying. All mey other tanks are doing fine
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:07 pm

i would try the shelled peas first
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:42 pm

Hi,what are you feeding them? Is there anything different in that tank to the others? Anything changed in that tank?


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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:02 pm

any wood in the tank? Stocking levels?


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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:08 pm

everybody gets the same food. The only thing different is I took outb the substrate. I put it back now but fish are still dying I tried feeding them garlic but that did not work either. I'm still losing fish
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:26 pm

are you sure it is bloat, not worms or something?

again, pics and using the template will help. still lots of info we need to know to really help out

If you are still loosing fish then there is something going on.

  • Do a daily gravel vac to remove all traces of poo. this should result in a 10-20% daily change
  • Feed nothing to the tank but peas and cucumber
  • give the affected fish a epsom salt bath, you can gently massage their tummy too
  • treat the tank with a broad scale copper based antibiotic (Myxizin comes to mind)
  • if there is no wood in the tank get it in there NOW
  • have a good attitude and sing to your fish:shock: 

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:22 am

what exactly are you feeding?
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:54 pm

yep it looks like all the pic's of bloat I seen normaly I get a death of bloat one or 2 a year and thats the end of it but this is wiping me out . Talked to Ungy ( Saul ) he said try garlic but they would not touch it. then he sugested TC I been using 2 teaspoons in a 55 daly and still I'm getting deaths.

Chase I feed all my BNP tanks the same foods and only this tank is getting bloat. It is not the food it is a pathogen. It is killing both juvies and adults. I put green beans in the tank and they are not even touching it. I think all my plecos stoped eating.
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:56 pm

this is very odd.

have you considered a full shut down and restart?

they other thing that i am thinking a UV sterilizer might help...

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:13 pm

I agree this is very odd, sorry to hear :,(

Are you still feeding the pea/egg food? Not sure of the ratios used but possibly too much protein with the egg causing constipation. I second Doug's advice of pes/cucumbers and epsom salt.

If it's not the food as you suspect I would treat for parasites.

When you said you think all your plecos stopped eating, was that just for this one tank or them all?

Good luck and keep us posted.
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:58 pm

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Are you still feeding the pea/egg food?  Not sure of the ratios used but possibly too much protein with the egg causing constipation.  I second Doug's advice of pes/cucumbers and epsom salt.

This is why i was asking what EXACTLY you are feeding them.

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:44 am

no only did the pea and egg thing for a week. feed it to all my tanks with cichlids, livebearers ad plecos. Just the one tank affected.Plecos that were eating are not eating for the lase few days. the 10 or so baby african cichlids they are fine. Only the BNP are dying
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:27 am

pH?

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:32 am

Gosh, this must be so frustrating vinman, have things turned around at all?
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:22 pm

Just in one tank is the problem, all my BNP tanks get the same food
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:23 am

what are your water readings
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:34 am

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:45 am

I don't test my water I might be sending some animals to a lab to be tested
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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:42 am



Are you kidding me?

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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:30 pm

Doug wrote:


Are you kidding me?


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PostSubject: Re: help plecos dying for bloat   Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:44 pm

you dont test your water? how are we meant to help you if we don't know what is going on in your water? If you have sick fish the first port of call is the water quality. Even if you change the water every day it still doesn't mean the water cant be the cause.

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