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Jagtazman
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PostSubject: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:56 am

Thinking of setting up another breeding tank
Possibly a Juwel 96,120 etc however my worry is the fry will get stuck in the filter / housing
I generally run sponge filters in my FH but this tank will be in the lounge
Has anyone had any problems losing fry in the filters?
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:47 am

High Jagtazman, never had a real problem with internal filters- just try to get one
with a nice big sponge that fills the housing properly (no gaps).
Over the two years Ive been breeding the little suckers I've maybe lost a dozen caught up in the impeller.
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:53 am

Cheers

Pretty much what I thought
With my discus I have lost a few to the filter before now as attracted to the black sponges I use. So just before free swimming I now put white socks over the sponges Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:33 pm

Internal filters work great IMO , I've only just started playing around with external canisters- but still trying gauge when to clean it as you can't really see in the canister- I'd also imagine if all my fry got out in the 5ftr it would be a massacre unless I put the sport sock over the intake.
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:01 pm

I clean the crud out of the externals every other month and generally replace one of the sponges every 6 months
prob should do more often but they are well mature and keep my tanks heathly
I have 2 x Fluval 305 which I keep changing with bags in every few months
and a Eheim 2213 which is okay but a little sod to try and re prime

I have a sump in my main 5 ft tank in the lounge where I replace the floss weekly and again out of the 7 layers of sponge replace one a month as for bio balls they do not get touched

Filter Sponges are a must for me in discus breeding tanks but in a small 2-3 footer I thin internal is alot easier especially as I do not tend to overstock these like I do with my growouts and main 5 footer
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:11 pm

Thanx for the info Jagtazman, I'm pretty sure the external has been running for about 2 months now so I'll let it mature a little bit more and give him a scrub.
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:15 pm

Forgot to mention I have a sponge filter on the intake of each external which acts as a pre filter - I rinse in tank water weekly and give a rinse under tap monthly
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:19 pm

Sweet Good Job
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:24 am

i have the juwel rekord 96 litre ..its the one with tons of fry in at present ..it has a built in filter which the fry get in through everyway possible yet can easily get back out unscathed ..they get through the gap near the outlet pipe and through the vents ..ive not lost 1 yet ..and ive took it apart to clear sponges as all the veg and fry was slowing it down a bit ..if its this tank they are perfectly safe inside mine nothing in it that'll harm them..i also run the fluvel 4+ in here and they go in and out near the outlet nosel or in through the gaps fine also ..

yet i once lost a massive siamese fighter inside the tinyest of filters a aqua el i think it was ..reckon fry do better as lots of ways to get out again..heard of people emptying their externals and also finding live fry ..
the yummy bacteria and algae inside is far too tempting for them ..
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:02 pm

Would putting a pop sock over the filter stop them without affecting the filter?
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PostSubject: Re: Internal Filters   Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:28 pm

GrubbyGirl wrote:
Would putting a pop sock over the filter stop them without affecting the filter?
don't see why not I put a white sock over my sponge filters in my discus tank the day before they go free swimming and remove it around a week later
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