Big dilema should i sell up and re-start

as some of you no im moving 400 miles my biggest heartbreak was having to rehome my fish ..

im now left with
2 breeding groups of super red bns 1m-2f ratios (but havent bred yet) smallest is over 2 inches

and 2 breeding groups of lda08 gold marbled claro 1m-2f & 1m-1f (not bred yet) not measured yet but works out around 7-8 months old

200litre bowfront tank n stand

juwel 96 litre tank n stand

2 x interpet fish pod tanks + 2 x stands

now am i being selfish moving these fish 400 miles good 10hr drive as i need stops..

so what ive been thinking is should i sell up and restart once down cornwall ? and what about going either with malawi cichlids ? or even try marine ?

i no the ph is lower in the new place and the water is very soft whereas here isnt and im worried my bns maynot fair to well adjusting ..

id be greatful of opinions as i no you guys no your stuff cheers all xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

if anyones interested please pm me with offers cheers kaz x

Okay first of all, if you decide to sell the LDA08 please let me know as the wife would love these

However enough of being selfish.

If the fish are bagged correct and with a heat pad, they will survive 10 hours even 24 hours no problem. Remember fish imported into the country spend longer in their bags.

Ideally they need a burst of oxygen, why not have a chat with a friendly LFS and explain the situation and ask them if they have an oxygen bottle and will bag them for you. Most LFS do not have a bottle but all the good ones do.

If you wanted to re start something different I can recommend a few specialist Discus shops

Anyway good luck and let us know what you decide

ive replied to your pm

cheers for advice xxx i have got a polly box etc and i rekonmy lfs would be generous to help with oxygen ..but if for instance once i reached destination i set up as emergency a 64 litre tank ..how much of my water should i bring with me as the water in cornwall is soft and i dont no what amount to mix (ie ratio my water and cornwalls so as not to give them a ph shock etc)

ive listed them in the sales threads to see what interested i get
ive brought the lda08 claro in nov i was told they were around 4 months old back then so works out about 8 months old..i havent sized them some seem to be bigger than others ..they are great lookers ..and wag their tail fins like little puppies lol..
will try get size 2moro ..

ps replied to pm xxx

What Jagtazman has said about transporting your is very true, give me a little bit of time and I'll post something which you'll find quite beneficial( downloading at the moment so uploading is going to be slow)
J

ok thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sorry won't be long now , about 1/2 hour if you can hold out.
J

ok thanks will try wedge my eyes open for a while longer lol got early rise for 2moro for some hosp results ..seems im shrinking somehow..will need to get a step soon to clean my tanks lol xx

Here you go, ever seen one of these before

Obviously a battery powered air pump,

I think every good aquarist should have 1 of these in their kit, as long as you batteries you have air/oxygen,
I use mine mainly for taking fish to shops ( good impression if your fish turn up alive) but are real handy for stuff like power outages.
The heat packs that Jagtazman was talking about , if you google "wheat/microwave heat packs" you should see a few
results.
If your fish are warm and have good air, I'd be tempted to have crack at moving them - especially if they are your favourite fish.
Just something for you to consider, hope the move goes well for you.
J

ok thanks both great ideas

that airstone is a great idea how much do they cost ? i will check out ebay ..is there any 1 thats the best to use ?

but how would i add pipe and stone in the bags would they bash the fish about and wouldnt they not do up properly n leak ,or how do u use it with tubs or poly boxs ?

ive spent sleepless nights already over my fish wondering what to do but this doesnt seem a bad idea ..
just now need to see about water ph/softness any idea re- water amount ratio my old tank water + new home water so as not to shock them ..cheers xxxxxxxxxxxx

better let you get some shut eye and off hosp 2moz so thanks all youve been a big help xxxxxx

I'll have something different for you 2morrow (favourite fish remember)
J

As per J's suggestion http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTERY-OPERATED-LIVE-BAIT-OR-TANK-AIR-PUMP-POST-FREE_W0QQitemZ220549337276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Fish?hash=item3359c3d0bc

However, I do post fish ALL over the country with very very very few losses, and I put this down to no feeding a few days before sending so there's less fouling of the water, and also the ever faithful bag buddies which are added to the water.

As for the adjustment of PH, take as much of your own water as you can carry. Poundland often carries camping water bottles etc. I would suggest that this is where you would use the air pump.

Hope that helps somewhat.

Angi

thanks all for taking the time to help xxxxx big hug xxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi kaz if i was you i would take them with you i cannot see you having any problems losing any bristlenoses ive had them sent from all over and never had any losses if your worried about the water being soft just use some bicarb to ajust it to what you want or you can buy some ph up from the lfs dont no much about this though ive never used it not when bicarb is so cheep and works well i would just fill a few 5 gallon drums up with your tank water and take that with you.

deano wrote:

hi kaz if i was you i would take them with you i cannot see you having any problems losing any bristlenoses ive had them sent from all over and never had any losses if your worried about the water being soft just use some bicarb to ajust it to what you want or you can buy some ph up from the lfs dont no much about this though ive never used it not when bicarb is so cheep and works well i would just fill a few 5 gallon drums up with your tank water and take that with you.

Agree you may regret it otherwise

High k.bod, had much time to plan an attack and digest what we've suggested? This is what I'd do.
Firstly aquire a smallish interim tank for your new address and start to get the tank cycled( I'm sure your neighbour
wouldn't mind baby sitting the fish for a while)
Tank cycled and ready to move fish ( or ignore the first bit and take a tank and most of the water you need
to start a complete setup, I know it's going to be a pain in the bum doing multiple 400 mile trips)
List of stuff you'll need:
Polystyrene box
Heat packs x 2
Portable air pumps x2 (1 for each bag)
2x decent sized fish bags
Packet of "cable/zip ties" for tying the bags closed, just in case your unsure of what they look like

And of course bottled tank water to fill the tank at the other end..

Occasionally through the journey you could open the bags to get some better gas exchange( removing carbon dioxide and getting fresher oxygen in the bag)
I'd also take the advice off of Angi into account about lack of food before the trip to keep waste products to a minimal( I've read of lots of people that trade regularly offering this advice).

Hope this helps and you come to a good conclusion.
J

cheers all xx ive just read this as both me and my daughter ended up having our hospital appointments today with our specialists n we both got bad news we werent expecting so knocked me back abit today ..but a good sleep on it tonight and a fresh head to look at whats to be done and im sure things will be ok ..

ive got a real tiny tank fully cycled kept as a emergency qt .cheers for the heads up jason on what i would need ..and thanks all for letting me no how yours have done in transit i feel more confident that i could bring them and theyd be ok ..but i have a few added things to weigh up now so i will keep you informed cheers all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

thanks all xxxx i no youve helped with my dilema but after yestetrdays hospital results and a good sleep and a clear head ive made a decision and im selling up everything ...sob sob ..
but once im down cornwall and im settled then hopefully i will restart back up again ..
thankyou all for you time and advice its been much appreciated ..xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
dont think your getting rid of me that easy i will still be on the forum lol xxxx

so just to let you no all fish all tanks and equipement will be listed for sale

cheers guys xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Good luck with the sale

sorry to hear this , hope the news you both got isnt to bad, if you were closer id of kept them for you along with the others i couldnt pick up, all the best with the move

thanks xxx i had to cancel the sign up and the trip would be too much so hopefully doing it all in 1 go now as not wanting to make things worse ..ha dmri results seems my pins n needles in my head etc is swelling on 1 side of brain also neck is swelling to so gota see whats doing it and as i have a rare auto-immune disease its not the best of news and to top it all my 15year old daughter was diagnosed with crohns on same day ..so best to sort my me and lot out first before restarting my hobby..

i no things will work out ok life cant always be easy i suppose xxxx cheers kaz x

That's a bit of a shame you have to give it away for a while- there's always next time .
You make sure you look after yourself and relax when you need to during this move k.bod.
J

im sorry to here this kaz i hope all goes well and you get sorted GOOD LUCK

cheers all xxxxxxxxxxxx it was sad to see the tanks and fishes go im must admit watching my corys go was very hard and boris and doris the bns but they now have a 5ft tank to spend their days happily in ..the other bns/corys etc all went to the same family the guy who got them was the grandad and his family all helped him come get them which was great ...
and to top it all his son and daughter in law brought nearly all my tanks and theyre only had to travel few miles ..also the juwel went to someone im mablethorpe ,someone called from grimsby and had the clearseal and bn fry and then simon and his gf came and collected the reds today so i no theyre gonna be well looked after by people who no their stuff and are pasionate about fish ...

cant believe how quick this was in the end ..so only the claros to go of which now sob sob there are only 4 as i didnt take to well to moving tanks and shot into a gap in the filter am totally gutted even though theyre for sale theyre still my responsability and pets till then and its awful to loose a fish so RIP little claro will go to the big pond in the sky xxx

once claros are gone i can get on with more packing as needing to shut down my last tank ..been got more bubble wrap and boxes today ...all this packing is sooo tiring gonna need holiday to recover lol maybe i will come back to mablethorpe lol not ...

Poor little Claro- R.I.P little guy.
Well it's nice to hear to the clear out is going smoothly and before you know it the move will be done and you can sit down and relax.
J