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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:42 pm

all i can think of is disease as it started with only one or two then progressively got worse from there. i have had successful fry in the past and didnt change anything.
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:15 pm

ok i think i have found out where i went wrong. i managed to get hold of a proper ph testing kit as i was using the strip testers. it seems my ph is rather high ( around 7.8-Cool

could this have caused the problem? i adjusted it to 7.2 which is the right ph as i have read.

and on the upside i forgot i had put 2 fry in my convict tank and they were out tonight cleaning away looking healthy.

i also checked the cave in my oscar tank and looks like i have my male bn on a fresh batch of eggs. hopefully i have more success this time round......
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:48 pm

Hi,a ph of 7.8 wouldn't of killed the fry and if i was you i wouldn't add chemicles to start to try and lower it.

What have you got in the tank? Have you got some wood in there?
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:37 pm

If the fry had been moved from a tank with a lower pH then it could cause pH shock, but I don't think this would explain the bloating. As Bristlenoses has said using chemicals is not the best way to go and I would be looking at what caused the pH to be high.

As for your Convicts being OK, they are a lot more tolerent to conditions than young BN fry Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:26 pm

I have gravel in the tank, a bubbler, internal filter and a piece of driftwood. The fry had been in the tank from eggs stage and the bloat was on about a quarter to half of them.
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:39 pm

Yes as jim said if they had been moved from a lower ph to a higher one that could of caused it but i just assumed they hadn't.

How long has the tank been up and running ?
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:08 am

the tank has been up and running for a few months now. im just going to have to try again and hope i dont have the same problem. i have put one of my smaller albino b/noses in there and it is fine.

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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:26 pm

Yeah, the fact that you've had successful batches in the patch really make me wonder, I mean it is possible that you just happened to have the pH off this particular time, but again, doesn't seem like it could cause bloating... could it?
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:29 pm

well if i dont have success this time round im going to strip the tank ie. new substrate better filter and new water (100% change) and then cycle it for a month. its baffled me as to where i have gone wrong as i have had successful fry previously.

update on this tank today is that the albino is still fine. is it possible just to have a bad batch of fry?
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:44 pm

jewie wrote:
The fry had been in the tank from eggs stage and the bloat was on about a quarter to half of them.

When they hatched was the male still with them Question
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:41 am

Yes when they hatched the male was with them. Just a quick update my new fry are hatched in the cave with the male. See how I go this time
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:26 pm

I hope everything goes OK this time Good Job
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:14 pm

Fingers crossed for you ,I hope all goes well,let us know Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:03 am

question about feeding peas - how do you peel the skin off? does it come off easily after boiling? also how many peas will a young bn eat in a day? (mine has quite an appettite)
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:48 am

If you just blanch them for a couple of minutes and then give them a bit of a squeeze, when they have cooled enough to handle, the inside just pops out.

It may take a couple of peas to master the art lol!







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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:22 pm

What i do is boil them for a minute or two then start peeling the skin off with my teeth lol! then peel the rest off with my fingers.
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PostSubject: Re: fry bloating   Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:00 am

yep, thats what i do too

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