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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:41 pm

defo not a 213 not inuf spots the 213 as loads of really white fine spots. Rio Ucayali im going with also
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:44 pm

High Jagtazman , think of it this way:
If the L001 is scientifically called Pteragoplichtys Joselimaianus aka gold spot
and then there are about 4 or 5 (maybe more) Pteragoplichtys Gibbiceps aka sailfin gibby( and they all have their own Lno, L083 springs to mind because I had 1) and then you get the "common" plec which is also in the same family "Pteragoplichtys"- Pardalis to be precise is labelled L021 Laughing
Now have you ever seen juvies of these fish listed as any thing different ?
L001 is still an L001 even if it's a baby.
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Oh and I think the L183 is the white seam, I have been known to be wrong before
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:57 am

Ahhaha, but there is a twist to the Lno system : A very similar or even the same fish sharing 2or more Lnumbers, eg L168 aka butterfly pleco- if you look at the aqualog cat-alogue L052 also mentions a reference to L168 - ya still with me?
If you look at the aqualog L052 is listed as "Zonancistrus Pulcher"( or something very similar) which is the new classified name for both these fish yet if you look at L168 it is still listed as the old "Dekeyseria Pulcher".
Now take a peek at planetcatfish and see what they call the L168 Laughing
Still my point being a juvenile fish still has the same Lno as the parent fish.
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Also take at look at L181(also listed as L071),L182,L183(whiteseam)L184----- also listed as L107
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:49 pm

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Also ( a bit off topic) Ancistrus "Hoplogenys" is listed a L059 not L213
Ha, I dunno what the common name is, it just know it's L number! xD Funnily enough, the only L number I recognize lol!
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defo not a 213 not inuf spots the 213 as loads of really white fine spots.
You've obviously not tried to photograph one of these then xD With my two, they have oodles of tiny white spots, but photographs (unless dones really well) often dont show a lot of their spots, leading them to look like they do in the photos here Smile
Plus, if you look well at the photos, you can see plenty of fine white spots on this guy Smile
I'm serious, this guy looks is a complete double of my L213's, and trust me, mine are L213, my LFS is a pleco obsessive xD
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:00 pm

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Oh and I think the L183 is the white seam, I have been known to be wrong before

You are right it's 183 always get 181/182/183 mixed up
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:20 pm

Mate what a dilema , I got my hands on the Aqualog cat-alogue yesterday and boy oh boy what a mess :1 fish sharing 3 different L numbers and then you have these black Ancistrus with the white spots - I lost count as to how many there were which also have the confusing number share eg L184 is also listed as(well the book says = to) L107, you then get to L181 the book says see also L182 and L071, then we get L180 which is equal to L032. Nice and effective hey.
Now the comment about "hoplogenys" is L059 and not L213 was a reference from planetcatfish , yet the Aqualog has the L183 listed a "hoplogenys" and no other reference to any other L no, and they only have L059 listed as "Ancistrus sp"-- so even I was wrong about that call.
L213 is listed as "Ancistrus sp" aswell so sorry I can't give you the real name for your fish spreebok but it also has them listed as L100 and LDA75.
But I still reckon the fish in question for the I.D is an orange spot.
cheers J
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:23 pm

Not got the aqualog book as refuse to pay £90 for it
I have the Back to Nature L Catfishes cost me £15 and is an excellent reference tool, would recommend it to anyone
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:26 pm

Neither of the books are mine , we move both of them between our circle of friends,
I have both of the books sitting in front of me right now.
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:44 pm

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Not got the aqualog book as refuse to pay £90 for it
I have the Back to Nature L Catfishes cost me £15 and is an excellent reference tool, would recommend it to anyone


might have a look for that dont mind paying £15 lol!
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:11 am

Definately worth the the 15pound 816johnv, it's really a good descriptive book with
a fair bit of info particular to the fish where as the Aqualog has far more species but not a lot of info on the fish, affraid 90pound for the Aqualog ,that is scary ,my mate sean got his for $50 (20pound)
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:19 pm

Well worth it mate best invest I have made in a while
the last books I got that were a bargain were 2 x discus books which cost me £50 each, the info in them is priceless
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PostSubject: Re: wat BN pleco is this???   Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:33 pm

defo a good buy at £15
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