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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| all i can think of is disease as it started with only one or two then progressively got worse from there. i have had successful fry in the past and didnt change anything. | |
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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:15 pm | |
| ok i think i have found out where i went wrong. i managed to get hold of a proper ph testing kit as i was using the strip testers. it seems my ph is rather high ( around 7.8- could this have caused the problem? i adjusted it to 7.2 which is the right ph as i have read. and on the upside i forgot i had put 2 fry in my convict tank and they were out tonight cleaning away looking healthy. i also checked the cave in my oscar tank and looks like i have my male bn on a fresh batch of eggs. hopefully i have more success this time round...... | |
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Bristlenoses V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 992 Age : 58 Location : Mansfield,Nottinghamshire,East Midlands U.K Job/hobbies : Bristlenoses,photography,animals,nature,drawing and painting,films,books,internet. Thank You Points : 59 Registration date : 2011-08-26
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:48 pm | |
| Hi,a ph of 7.8 wouldn't of killed the fry and if i was you i wouldn't add chemicles to start to try and lower it.
What have you got in the tank? Have you got some wood in there? | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:37 pm | |
| If the fry had been moved from a tank with a lower pH then it could cause pH shock, but I don't think this would explain the bloating. As Bristlenoses has said using chemicals is not the best way to go and I would be looking at what caused the pH to be high. As for your Convicts being OK, they are a lot more tolerent to conditions than young BN fry | |
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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:26 pm | |
| I have gravel in the tank, a bubbler, internal filter and a piece of driftwood. The fry had been in the tank from eggs stage and the bloat was on about a quarter to half of them. | |
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Bristlenoses V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 992 Age : 58 Location : Mansfield,Nottinghamshire,East Midlands U.K Job/hobbies : Bristlenoses,photography,animals,nature,drawing and painting,films,books,internet. Thank You Points : 59 Registration date : 2011-08-26
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| Yes as jim said if they had been moved from a lower ph to a higher one that could of caused it but i just assumed they hadn't.
How long has the tank been up and running ? | |
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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:08 am | |
| the tank has been up and running for a few months now. im just going to have to try again and hope i dont have the same problem. i have put one of my smaller albino b/noses in there and it is fine.
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Azedenkae Juvenile Bristlenose
Number of posts : 46 Location : Brisbane Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2011-11-08
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:26 pm | |
| Yeah, the fact that you've had successful batches in the patch really make me wonder, I mean it is possible that you just happened to have the pH off this particular time, but again, doesn't seem like it could cause bloating... could it? | |
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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:29 pm | |
| well if i dont have success this time round im going to strip the tank ie. new substrate better filter and new water (100% change) and then cycle it for a month. its baffled me as to where i have gone wrong as i have had successful fry previously.
update on this tank today is that the albino is still fine. is it possible just to have a bad batch of fry? | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:44 pm | |
| - jewie wrote:
- The fry had been in the tank from eggs stage and the bloat was on about a quarter to half of them.
When they hatched was the male still with them | |
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jewie Small Fry
Number of posts : 24 Location : australia Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-09-24
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:41 am | |
| Yes when they hatched the male was with them. Just a quick update my new fry are hatched in the cave with the male. See how I go this time | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:26 pm | |
| I hope everything goes OK this time | |
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Bristlenoses V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 992 Age : 58 Location : Mansfield,Nottinghamshire,East Midlands U.K Job/hobbies : Bristlenoses,photography,animals,nature,drawing and painting,films,books,internet. Thank You Points : 59 Registration date : 2011-08-26
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:14 pm | |
| Fingers crossed for you ,I hope all goes well,let us know | |
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miles Fish Egg
Number of posts : 16 Location : United States Thank You Points : 1 Registration date : 2011-12-01
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:03 am | |
| question about feeding peas - how do you peel the skin off? does it come off easily after boiling? also how many peas will a young bn eat in a day? (mine has quite an appettite) | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:48 am | |
| If you just blanch them for a couple of minutes and then give them a bit of a squeeze, when they have cooled enough to handle, the inside just pops out. It may take a couple of peas to master the art | |
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Bristlenoses V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 992 Age : 58 Location : Mansfield,Nottinghamshire,East Midlands U.K Job/hobbies : Bristlenoses,photography,animals,nature,drawing and painting,films,books,internet. Thank You Points : 59 Registration date : 2011-08-26
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:22 pm | |
| What i do is boil them for a minute or two then start peeling the skin off with my teeth then peel the rest off with my fingers. | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: fry bloating Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:00 am | |
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