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chandlerslad Fish Egg
Number of posts : 9 Location : darlington county durham Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-12-18
| Subject: the L number thing Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:22 pm | |
| thanks for the advice on the other matter folks i.e. feeding however I am a little stuck as to what these L numbers mean
for example I intend to get lemon bristlenoses and super red bristlenoses
do these share one L number or are they the same? I believe the lemon bristlenoses are L144 but have absolutely no idea if this is the same for the super reds or if they have a number all of their own. thanks in advance for your help on this folks Ian | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:00 pm | |
| Both the lemon and super red are colour morphs of the common bristlenose, the lemon is often sold as L144, but true L144's are rarely seen and the original description does not match the lemon variety.
There is a profile of the L144 on HERE with an image of a fish that could be a true L144 as it matches the description of it being a yellow-brown colour. | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:49 pm | |
| yeah, Jim is right. The L144 morph of the common bristlenose is not the real L144. that has by most accounts been lost to the sands of cross breading and inbreeding.
Lemons and reds are the same species and will interbreed and it seems from most accounts that you will end up with common babies | |
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chandlerslad Fish Egg
Number of posts : 9 Location : darlington county durham Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-12-18
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:41 pm | |
| ok now I am confused???? the super reds and the lemons are being bred from parents of the same colouring etc i.e. the super reds parents are super reds and the lemons parents are lemons, so how will i now get common bristlenose babies from them if they breed?? help??? | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:07 pm | |
| I think Doug is refering to a Red /Lemon cross were the common gene would be more dominant producing common fry rather than a mixture of Reds and Lemons . | |
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chandlerslad Fish Egg
Number of posts : 9 Location : darlington county durham Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2011-12-18
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:15 pm | |
| right now I get it to paraphrase if they are kept seperate and breed the lemons will produce lemons and the reds will produse reds however if tthey are allowed to mix and breed across the colours then the fry would be either a mixture including common bristlenoses or (more likely) just common bristlenoses do I have this right then folks (sorry to be a pain in the butt folks but it's all gobbledygook to me at the minute) | |
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jim.and V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 1449 Age : 67 Location : England Job/hobbies : Warehouse Op Thank You Points : 107 Registration date : 2010-08-04
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:57 pm | |
| You might find THIS TOPIC of interest, various members have reported what they got with different crosses. What I know about genetics you could write on the back of a postage stamp , but I think a Red/Lemon cross would produce 100% brown. | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: the L number thing Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:18 am | |
| yup, from all accounts that is what you get | |
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