removal of the male

when should i remove the male from the baby fry does the male keep care for the babies once they leave the cave
?. i moved the cave into a breeding net which is in the main tank and i have removed the male but he has returned to the spot where the cave was located and he looks sad have i done the right thing should i move him back with the babies

It's always better to let nature take it's course. By this I mean when the males job is done then the fry will leave the cave. You didnt need to remove the male but for now I'd just leave it as is. The fry should leave the cave when they are ready and then you can give the cave back to the male

Hi,he needs a cave thats why hes unsettled.Have you got another he can have?It is always best to leave the male in his cave with the babies.Why did you move the cave into a fry saver ?

i moved the fry in fear of my clown loaches eating them for dinner. otherwise i would of let them stay.i do have a few caves so i think he has moved into one and claimed ownership.also the male got scared in the fry tank and was thrashing around stressed out .

What they are trying to say is you should have just moved the eggs/fry and not the father and log :p

I just wondered what the reason was for moving them and as the O.P said it was because of the clown loaches.The eggs or fry can be moved without the cave or father but they can also be moved along with the cave and in some cases this can be a better option.The father wouldn't be happy in a fry saver with the babies so it's best he isn't with them.It is always best to let the dad bring the babies up but sometimes it can't be helped.I hope all goes well and I am glad the dad has settled down into another cave,i hope the babies all do well.

I move dad and cave into a fry saver when my peps breed in my big dispaly tank. There is a big clown loach who would love to have a feed of the eggs. Dad doesnt mind as he is in the cave and not really moving around too much. I leave him in there for 2-3 days after the fry have emerged then i move him back into the tank and leave the fry in the saver with a log for cover. I have done this with commons as well trialing a few different things in the past. I have only once had a male leave the cave cos a move and he was a first timer. Cos most males dont leave the cave they do not mind being in the fry saver. Just make sure the is heaps of flow through the saver as that will be jthing that puts him off, if he cant get enough fresh water he will bugger off.