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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:12 am | |
| To add to Doug's research: My Calico Long Fins finally emerged from their cave 3 days ago. I bought the colony of 7 as juvies around 18 months ago. They came from 'pure' (Lol) Calico Long Fin Parents. I have counted approximately 60 fry Approximately 20 are Albino the rest are Calico. It is too early to say for sure wether they are long fin or not but will update when I can confirm. Hope this helps guys Pete | |
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Mooo V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 957 Age : 63 Location : Jervis Bay, NSW, Australia Job/hobbies : Retired Humor : What? Thank You Points : 36 Registration date : 2009-12-14
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:30 pm | |
| Congrats on you new additions ...Be interesting to see if you get lfins.
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Amber Juvenile Bristlenose
Number of posts : 118 Location : Boise, Idaho, USA Thank You Points : 12 Registration date : 2009-05-10
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:54 pm | |
| This calico and albino thing is one to watch and to any who make color test breedings, to investigate further. Going over my notes I am seeing a connection between calico and albino, don't know if it's a co-incidence or not yet, as there isn't enough data, but this is the first couple of colors that may have some sort of relationship. What type of albino are they? The pale yellow spotted type? That's what most albino long fin seem to be. Too young to tell, but could you add that info along with the fin type when you update? I am hearing about two types of calico also. One that is brownish with the red patches and the other more solid looking, like a red fish dipped in dark chocolate. Just speculation now, but what if the red patched ones were factored for albino (or one specific type of albino) and the darker ones not? | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:11 am | |
| awesome, cheers for that nice work on the spawn too helps paint the picture a bit more | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:47 am | |
| - Amber wrote:
- This calico and albino thing is one to watch and to any who make color test breedings, to investigate further. Going over my notes I am seeing a connection between calico and albino, don't know if it's a co-incidence or not yet, as there isn't enough data, but this is the first couple of colors that may have some sort of relationship. What type of albino are they? The pale yellow spotted type? That's what most albino long fin seem to be. Too young to tell, but could you add that info along with the fin type when you update?
I am hearing about two types of calico also. One that is brownish with the red patches and the other more solid looking, like a red fish dipped in dark chocolate. Just speculation now, but what if the red patched ones were factored for albino (or one specific type of albino) and the darker ones not? The ones that bread are a more golden colour with the brown blotches. I have a couple in the colony that are very dark brown with the gold colour underneith but they are still too small to breed so I have them in a seperate tank for now. I must say, i am suprised at the amount of albino that came through.. | |
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Curby The Boss
Number of posts : 3597 Age : 42 Location : Wigan UK Job/hobbies : Manager Humor : Comedian Thank You Points : 77 Registration date : 2008-12-26
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:41 am | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: UPDATE Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:29 pm | |
| Just moved the fry to their own tank tonight and confirm the following:
TOTAL: 82 Fry (Pretty good for their first spawn!!)
CALICO: 53
ALBINO: 29
Still too small to confirm if they are long fin.
Will keep the updates coming as they develop..
Pete. | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:03 am | |
| Awesome work mate, entered into my database. Keep us posted on the fins | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Batch #2 Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:28 am | |
| Batch #2
Different female, same group as previously mentioned.
Approximately the same number of fry and approximately the same ratio of Calico to Albino.
Batch #1
Update.. It appears that nearly, if not all, are longfin. Its still a little early but the tail finnage is definitely longer than that of a regular short fin fry.
Will keep the updates coming as they get older..
Pete | |
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Mooo V.I.P Member
Number of posts : 957 Age : 63 Location : Jervis Bay, NSW, Australia Job/hobbies : Retired Humor : What? Thank You Points : 36 Registration date : 2009-12-14
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:05 pm | |
| Woohooo!! Congrats on your fry, awesome numbers...well done...Keep the updates coming... | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:50 pm | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:39 am | |
| Update after a long time away from the site!! Have had another 2 more spawns since the last update and the boy is on eggs again. The first batch are now big enough to determine if they are long fin and it seems that about half are long fin.. in fact there are more lf albino's than calico's unfortunately. The last two spawns are, again, similar numbers, but because there is so many of the buggers now its hard to get acccurate figures. Looking forward to growing the first batch up big enough to sell... the cash would be nice! Pete | |
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Doug Bristlenose King
Number of posts : 3128 Age : 38 Location : Adelaide, South Australia Job/hobbies : Aquatic ecologist/genetisist Humor : yes please :) Thank You Points : 198 Registration date : 2010-05-08
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:08 am | |
| cheers buddy Congrads on the spawns!! | |
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Curby The Boss
Number of posts : 3597 Age : 42 Location : Wigan UK Job/hobbies : Manager Humor : Comedian Thank You Points : 77 Registration date : 2008-12-26
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:27 am | |
| when do we see some pics of the calico longfin's ?? | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:31 am | |
| Im not real sure how to do it but I'll try.. | |
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Bristlenose boy Fish Egg
Number of posts : 14 Age : 32 Location : Brisbane (northern suberbs) Thank You Points : 0 Registration date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:05 am | |
| - Mooo wrote:
- Congrats on you new additions ...Be interesting to see if you get lfins.
I agree | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:18 am | |
| Looks like more of the albino's are long fin than the calico's but there is still more short fin coming out than long fin, which leads me to believe that the long fin gene is not dominent - obviously - buy potentially a recessive gene.
This is an average over 4 batches of fry in the last 6 months.
It is only calico and albino coming out too. no commons. | |
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Fat42b Small Fry
Number of posts : 34 Location : Dapto / Wollongong Thank You Points : 2 Registration date : 2010-06-28
| Subject: Re: Att: Doug - New Fry Info Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:40 pm | |
| Dad's on eggs again.. Will keep the info coming as they grow. 1st batch is now an average of 2.5 to 3cm and some larger. Ready to be sold | |
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wolverine Chief poster
Number of posts : 973 Age : 53 Location : UK Job/hobbies : Fitness Consultant, K9 Security Thank You Points : 52 Registration date : 2010-05-25
| Subject: nice measurements on the Bristles.. Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:44 pm | |
| nice measurements to start letting the Bristle Nose go at...
keep up the good work :P | |
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