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PostSubject: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 6:08 am

since i had 2 males 1 female i went to my local aquariam and asked him if he would trade a male for female. he showed me his last few albino bristlenose and they were all young and i chose the one i thought was female because still pretty young.
sorry there a bit blury.

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PostSubject: not sure,...   is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 9:20 am

from the angle of the pictures, size and age of pleco I would not like to say..

you may need to wait a while longer to get a more accurate answer sorry..
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 4:53 pm

Laykoo i thought your trio were pepps??
And what size is that albino maybe 1.5 inches???
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PostSubject: 50/50   is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 5:39 pm

well it is 50/50 so I say possible female.... lol...

only a female could have a definite clear lip line like that...

as she got your partners lippy on...lol:)

if i am wrong dont need to fone a friend as it must be male if not...lol
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 11:06 pm

the angle makes it impossible. with no hint of bristles (either male or female) it comes down to body shape and that needs to be from directly above AND below Smile

also we need to know total length as that will influence it

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PostSubject: lol Doug your so educated :)   is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 11:20 pm

I love doug for his eloquence.... but must say he is right yet again...

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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 12:51 am

i have 3 peppermints but they are related Sad hardly find any peppermint breeders.

heres another pic
its almost 2 inches.

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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyWed Sep 08, 2010 5:42 pm

I'd say there's a good chance that it's female.

When they are that young it is hard to tell but often the females are a little more round shaped while the males are longer and thinner.
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyWed Sep 08, 2010 5:54 pm

please tell me your not trying to spawn the albino with the pepps???
as it wont happen... Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 1:29 am

yeah, my money would be on female, but its a tough one as i cant see any hint of bristles yet, which means its still immature and may not have begun to take on its adult form.

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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 5:26 am

no im not trying to spawn them with the peppermints i have a male albino for her.. i would of had a trio of albinos but the other female died Sad

just wondering why wont it happen..

BTW i havnt had any spawns yet from any fish
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laykoo wrote:
no im not trying to spawn them with the peppermints i have a male albino for her.. i would of had a trio of albinos but the other female died Sad

just wondering why wont it happen..

BTW i havnt had any spawns yet from any fish

Patience Laykoo, it will happen and when it does you will struggle for tank space ... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 11:45 am

lol! ive been looking for older females around the 10 cm mark my male is about 10-12 cms its going to be a long time untill she reaches his size Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 3:13 am

Ity wont happen as they are totally different species Smile many people have tried, searching for the elusive longfin peppermint but simple genetics makes it impossible

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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 11:18 pm

Doug wrote:
Ity wont happen as they are totally different species Smile many people have tried, searching for the elusive longfin peppermint but simple genetics makes it impossible


i do not support cross breeding at all, but a friend of mine accidently had a male common albino breed with a female peppermint. my friend wasn't planning on breeding it just happened in the tank. babies turned out half peps and half albino's. no other catfish in the tank. i didn't think it could happen either, until i saw photos of the babies. just thought i'd share Smile
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Doug wrote:
Ity wont happen as they are totally different species Smile many people have tried, searching for the elusive longfin peppermint but simple genetics makes it impossible


i do not support cross breeding at all, but a friend of mine accidently had a male common albino breed with a female peppermint. my friend wasn't planning on breeding it just happened in the tank. babies turned out half peps and half albino's. no other catfish in the tank. i didn't think it could happen either, until i saw photos of the babies. just thought i'd share Smile

Wow I was always under the impression that you can't cross breed the peps either :S Hence the quotation lol

Are you sure it wasn't a really dark and well spotted common bn? Not that I'm questioning your observation but I thought that from what Doug said, the genetics are incompatible :S It's only because I've also seen laykoo's peps and i have a longfin bn that has a similar shade of colour and white spots, but the spots are larger than the ones on the pep lol.
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 2:23 am

oh god, here we go again.

two rules to the 'peps x common game'

1) Pics or it didnt happen

2) if you or someone you know claims they have done it then please verify it with a local pleco expert (not your local fish shop, as most of them dont know a gold spot from a L333)

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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 8:59 am

Doug wrote:
oh god, here we go again.

two rules to the 'peps x common game'

1) Pics or it didnt happen

2) if you or someone you know claims they have done it then please verify it with a local pleco expert (not your local fish shop, as most of them dont know a gold spot from a L333)


I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk like i am stupid, i was just sharing some info which i thought this place was for.
i will get photos and post them to show you. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )    is this male or female please try :D ( its sort of young )  EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 10:18 pm

I never meant to insinuate that you are stupid mate Smile

Its just that for those of use who have been kicking around the pleco forums for a few years will remember the huge arguements that use top break out over this topic, and i mean HUGE arguements. Hence the rules, just so that we dont end up the same way and end up banning members.

If you have pics that would be excellent. I still am very unsure if it can happen biologically so i would be very keen to see it.

anyway, enough of this here.

Back on topic Smile

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My money would be on that being a female mate
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