L183 starlight

Hi

today i purchased 2 L183's, the LFS said they will grow to 9 to 11 inch yet Planetcatfish say 3.9 inch (100mm), who's right?

KenG wrote:

Hi

today i purchased 2 L183's, the LFS said they will grow to 9 to 11 inch yet Planetcatfish say 3.9 inch (100mm), who's right?

Hmmm as far as i no L183 will only grow to 4 inch....

L182 Starlight Bristlenose Plecs are the bigger species and will grow to 11 inches easily..

I have a large Male L182 he is about 9 and a half inches and my female is about 7 inch....

It is hard to tell the diff between the 2..have you got any pics???

And how big would you say your pair are at the moment???

ive seen the much bigger than that and in the wild they grow much larger atm planetcatfish needs a serious update which they are starting


Dane

Dane wrote:

ive seen the much bigger than that and in the wild they grow much larger atm planetcatfish needs a serious update which they are starting


Dane

I have to agree dane, planet Catfish is great dont get me wrong but they do need a little update.....

yer totally agree great helpful site but it does need updateing,

as for l183's i am pretty sure they can grow to 5" as fully grown male, and say 4" for the females

also i think alot will depend on the size of your tank and how much you feed n that....in the wild there are no restriction's...

I'll try and get some photos but at the minute they're keeping a very low profile. Size of them is approx 5cm

Scientific Name:

Ancistrus dolichopterus (Kner, 1854)




Common Names:

Starlight Bristlenose, White Seam Ancistrus L183




11.47 cm. (4.5 inches)




Distribution:

Brazil, Amazonas, Rio Negro (lower and middle course)




Tank:

A relatively spacious tank with much cover is appreciated, as is suitable filtration. Mild current is also recommended.




Temperature:

25.0-29.0°C or 77.0-84.2°F




pH:

5.5-7.0




Diet:

Vegetarian; feed with algae wafers, catfish chips, cucumber, zucchini, sweet potato and other green foods. This fish can be fed high protein foods sparingly, as is often the case when conditioning for spawning.




Sexing:

Sexing this fish is easy; as with all ancistrus, males develop fleshy protuburences (cutaneous processes) on their head--or better yet, "bristles". Females may get a few small bristles around the edge of the lip. Males also bear more noticeable odontodal growth.




Breeding:

These fish are easy to breed in captivity--provide a tight cave for the male, condition the female, and provide good water quality, and these fish will spawn regularly. However, they do necessitate relatively warm and most certainly soft water to induce spawning. Males can be quite dominant during and prior to spawning, and thus must be tended to if things should get out of hand.




Other info:

One of the more highly sought after of the genus, due ot its striking jet black coloration and bright white caudal and dorsal edges. Wild imports are generally quite intolerant of hardwater conditions, and, if kept in such, may require extensive acclimatization, but will generally fare relatively poorly. They spend much of their time hiding under pieces of driftwood, or in caves, unlike certain other members of the genus that are active and boisterous. Can be told apart from other ancistrus, especially other similarly hued individuals by dorsal ray count (at ten).

"L Number mad wrote:

Scientific Name:

Ancistrus dolichopterus (Kner, 1854)




Common Names:

Starlight Bristlenose, White Seam Ancistrus L183




11.47 cm. (4.5 inches)




Distribution:

Brazil, Amazonas, Rio Negro (lower and middle course)




Tank:

A relatively spacious tank with much cover is appreciated, as is suitable filtration. Mild current is also recommended.




Temperature:

25.0-29.0°C or 77.0-84.2°F




pH:

5.5-7.0




Diet:

Vegetarian; feed with algae wafers, catfish chips, cucumber, zucchini, sweet potato and other green foods. This fish can be fed high protein foods sparingly, as is often the case when conditioning for spawning.




Sexing:

Sexing this fish is easy; as with all ancistrus, males develop fleshy protuburences (cutaneous processes) on their head--or better yet, "bristles". Females may get a few small bristles around the edge of the lip. Males also bear more noticeable odontodal growth.




Breeding:

These fish are easy to breed in captivity--provide a tight cave for the male, condition the female, and provide good water quality, and these fish will spawn regularly. However, they do necessitate relatively warm and most certainly soft water to induce spawning. Males can be quite dominant during and prior to spawning, and thus must be tended to if things should get out of hand.




Other info:

One of the more highly sought after of the genus, due ot its striking jet black coloration and bright white caudal and dorsal edges. Wild imports are generally quite intolerant of hardwater conditions, and, if kept in such, may require extensive acclimatization, but will generally fare relatively poorly. They spend much of their time hiding under pieces of driftwood, or in caves, unlike certain other members of the genus that are active and boisterous. Can be told apart from other ancistrus, especially other similarly hued individuals by dorsal ray count (at ten).

Thanks L-number mad, very informative. I'm looking forward to watching them grow and hopefully breed!

Did you purchase these from the Maidenhead in Beverley?

Yes i did 816johnv, why? I,m pretty new at L numbers, I have'nt dropped a clanger have I.

i am almost certain they are L182 they look just like mt L182 fry and not all the ones in the tank had the white seams

Feel a bit of a dummy now! . I suppose we live and learn eh!

KenG wrote:

Feel a bit of a dummy now! . I suppose we live and learn eh!

Dont mate my mate went in there and told them they where L182s and they ignored him..... obviously thought they would get more money or something

I rang today and they said they were 99% certain they were 183's, they came from a "reliable " importer and they are going to look on the net tonight to confirm or accept that they are not 183's. I have to ring tommorrow to find out the answer. Tried looking at the 183's dorsal ray count, apparently the 183 has 1 hard and 8 soft spines but their still a little small to count. I'll let you know outcome tommorrow night.

KenG wrote:

I rang today and they said they were 99% certain they were 183's, they came from a "reliable " importer and they are going to look on the net tonight to confirm or accept that they are not 183's. I have to ring tommorrow to find out the answer. Tried looking at the 183's dorsal ray count, apparently the 183 has 1 hard and 8 soft spines but their still a little small to count. I'll let you know outcome tommorrow night.

Ok mate..... i hope that i am wrong but i dont think i am

Can you get any pics of the ones you have?

Problem sorted!, I took the L183's? back to MH tonight. I rang earlier today and spoke Adam, the manager (i think), and he was very understanding, he said they obtained them as 183's but if i was not happy with them i could return them no problem.Being new to L's i am going to have to be a little more observant and dig a little more, using the experience of people on here and research instead of letting my heart rule my head!

KenG wrote:

Problem sorted!, I took the L183's? back to MH tonight. I rang earlier today and spoke Adam, the manager (i think), and he was very understanding, he said they obtained them as 183's but if i was not happy with them i could return them no problem.Being new to L's i am going to have to be a little more observant and dig a little more, using the experience of people on here and research instead of letting my heart rule my head!

Glad you got it sorted mate

Glad you worked it out mate

Thanks 816johnv and curby, sometimes we make a blob but its nice to know it can be put right without too much hassle.