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Andympgs
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PostSubject: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyWed May 02, 2012 7:47 pm

Hi all, i'm a new member and this is my first post.
I was wandering if anyone has any advice, i have 2 Bn.. female/male, they recently produced 9 eggs, which ifound by mistake when cleaning the gravel underneath a tank ornament.
i was myffed anyway as the male had been hiding for a few days and only came out at feed time.
anyway long and short of it is i was advised that the orange balls i found were indeed eggs and to replace the ornament best i could, and leave it..
a week later tghe fry appeared... 9 of them, some were white in colour and some the typical brown/black..
they appeared fine in the community, mainly sticking to the back glass wall, and some on top of the filter.
after checking them daily, i can no longer see any, it has been about 2 weeks since they came into the community so they may be older?
i dont know how old they were before they came into the tank from the cave?
they were approx 1 cm long maybe 2mm more give or take!!
they all looked healthy!

inside my tank are
2 discus
1 corridorus
1 electric blue ram
6 diamond eye neons
6 golden daniubes probably spelt wrong??

i put a piece of drift wood in the tank as soon as i was told they were bn eggs,
i have the temp constantly at 23/24 degrees
treated with stress zyme once per week and do a 5o litre water change every month, i have a 125 fluval tank and bever had any problems with the dynamics we now have.. we did have all cichlids but they were horribly aggressive and messy, we wanted more quiet fish, the bn are my babies, the discus are the wifes favorites...
i could easily start looking underneath the wood and other ornaments but i would hate to disturb the 2 week old bn fry, or stress them out..
is there anything im doing wrong?
would it be just as well to look around to see if they are alive...
the other fish were never bothered by them as day 1 onwards so i cannot see why they community fish would eat them now... have they just died and where would they go if they died?

sorry for a long discriptive question, advice is really really appreciated.
thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyWed May 02, 2012 8:30 pm

Have you checked if they got sucked into your filter?
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyWed May 02, 2012 8:38 pm

Yes I checked and cleaned the filter today,
May I add I just found 1
Right underneath the ornament ,
It's a mechanism London tower bridge
Where the bottom and the two towers act as the caves where they were born,
I only seen the 1 but I'm happy now as this means to me what I originally thought which is that the baby's are hiding in every buck and crany in my tank
They are having fun I think lol
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyThu May 03, 2012 12:11 am

i hate to say it but i suspect they may have been eaten. Suspect #1 is the ram, Suspect #2 the discus. Bristlenose fry are not terribly good at hiding and unfortunatly they may have not made it past natural selection test 1.

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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyThu May 03, 2012 5:36 am

Cheers. Doug, that was one of the options in the process of elimination !
What do you think though about the 1 I have found last night?
I don't know now if the other 8 are hiding aswell
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyThu May 03, 2012 11:25 am

a spawn of only 8 eggs is very rare, i suspect that there was a few more than 8 eggs somewhere and you found the few that were booted out of the cave. There may well be a few that manage to hide it out but that depends on how many hiding places there are and how activly the other fish hunt them
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyThu May 03, 2012 12:48 pm

How many eggs are we talking about on an average breed??
The only reason I found them in the first place was because I took the ornament out of the tank to clean it and then spotted these eggs.
I then realised that the male was also hanging on for dear life,
I did feel extremely bad about it but the male still to this day is fine
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:18 am

normally about 40ish for a first spawn
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyFri May 04, 2012 11:16 am

Wow ! That many !
I've found another strange I know, maybe there has been more survive than I thought.
I was told by local aquatic that once they start breeding then they will continue
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PostSubject: Re: Missing bristlenose fry?    Missing bristlenose fry?  EmptyFri May 04, 2012 7:21 pm

Once they start then they will spawn on a regular basis.
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